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Old 03-22-2007, 01:44 PM   #1
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I changed me calendar around and now I'm not sure what would be better. It seems when I look at the traffic people go to the calendar page but they seem not to get that you have to click on the month for the calendar to open.
Would it be better to use an IFrame for each month?
Heres the link. It seems quite easy to me but then some people just don't seem to know they should click the yellow.
http://www.colonialzone-dr.com/calendar2007.html
If I make esch month an IFrame on that page would that be a bad thing? Would the search engines not like that?
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:09 PM   #2
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If this is the important part of your site move it up higher in the page. I think it is getting lost down their. I knew what i was looking for and had a hard time finding what you have mentioned. Also try using a layout like Events Calender 2007 as A bold heading and then underneath list the 12 months, this cleans it out a bit and makes it more clear that those are navigational links. Also in my opinion remove the yellow and green background on the links it ads a lot of moise to the page.
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I changed me calendar around and now I'm not sure what would be better. It seems when I look at the traffic people go to the calendar page but they seem not to get that you have to click on the month for the calendar to open.
Would it be better to use an IFrame for each month?
Heres the link. It seems quite easy to me but then some people just don't seem to know they should click the yellow.
http://www.colonialzone-dr.com/calendar2007.html
If I make esch month an IFrame on that page would that be a bad thing? Would the search engines not like that?

The only real bad thing about iFrames is that a lot of search engines can't crawl them.


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The only real bad thing about iFrames is that a lot of search engines can't crawl them.

Yes, search engines can't crawl them, they aren't to W3C standards, and are now no longer effective or practical with newer coding techniques.
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Old 03-23-2007, 06:53 AM   #5
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Default Re: To IFrame or not to IFrame

Thanks. Thats what I wanted to know. Just wasn't sure about the IFrame. What is W3C standards?
I did IFrame my picture album onto a page in my site and Google seems to have indexed some of the pictures. Could this be because I have the album accessable by a link and also it is IFramed into the site?
http://www.colonialzone-dr.com/pictures-carnival.html
I have no idea how to incorporate the album into a page without the IFrame thing. Any ideas or is it OK the way I did it? I do want the pictures to be seen when someone goes to a picture page. I'm trying this out before I change all the picture pages to the albums.
Also Marcusa. Thanks for the feedback. I will try and start changing the link colors. It will take me weeks to get it all done on all the pages in the site. What colors do you suggest I use for the links? I wanted it to have a colonial, old look but have the green of the island look also. The plain blue just looks ugly.
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The left menu: I would leave them brown and remove the underlines. Since they are all upper-case it already shows that they belong together and form a menu. the links in the body could all be green as you have some of them already just without the background. I like to use underline on mouse over to calm down the text and make it more readable.
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Default Re: To IFrame or not to IFrame

Thanks for the suggestion. If I only knew how to make a style sheet for the navigation that would be so much easier. I'll try out what you said but theres some 300 pages that I have to change all seperatly.

Also to commend this forum. I have posted on different web site help forums but this one is the only one where people seem to respond fast and sometimes those otherd don't respond at all. Thankyou for the fast answers.
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Thanks for the suggestion. If I only knew how to make a style sheet for the navigation that would be so much easier. I'll try out what you said but theres some 300 pages that I have to change all seperatly.

Also to commend this forum. I have posted on different web site help forums but this one is the only one where people seem to respond fast and sometimes those otherd don't respond at all. Thankyou for the fast answers.

What program are you using to do the website with? For instance in Dream Weaver you can set page properties to do all links underline when mouse over. It packs it into your page code as inline css.
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http://www.w3.org/ - W3C is the standards for web programming. When people say a page is "valid" they mean that all code is under these rules.
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I sometimes use greybox to display other pages. It can act as an IFrame, but it does look way better and the pages do get crawle by the search engines.
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Default Re: To IFrame or not to IFrame

I use Web Page Maker for my site. It has a link stlye sheet but I still have to upload all the pages seperate. I had to divide the page into sections because the file was so large.
I'm working on it now. A big problem is I'm using windows 98se still (I lost my computer when I left it in Dominican Republic. A new one is on my list...LOL) on my mothers computer. It is slow and the computer is very full so I can do a few pages then I have to shut down and clear it out and start again.
I have not IFramed others web sites. I only IFrame when a document is really long. But now I'm only IFraming is the picture viewer thingy.
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What is W3C standards?

W3C standards are standard set by http://www.w3.org/ and they are basically a company in which a lot of comanies go by to set their browser settings too. So it's best to follow theirs.


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Hello.
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Here is a good question. Why can't I use IFrame with templates that are based on CSS, but when I use it in the templates that are based on tables the IFrames show up perfectly? Here is an example the IFrame is supposed to be 650x700, but no matter what I do it stays that tiny size.
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Here is a good question. Why can't I use IFrame with templates that are based on CSS, but when I use it in the templates that are based on tables the IFrames show up perfectly? Here is an example the IFrame is supposed to be 650x700, but no matter what I do it stays that tiny size.

It is probably because the CSS document can't understand the iFrame, CSS is meant to be used to replace most common visual components in the HTML code. My best advice to you would be to stop using iFrames, they aren't helpful and they can't be read by a search engine.


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