forum navigation problems

plumsauce · 03-06-2007, 10:24 AM

Just wanted you to know that as of the time of the posting of this message, there are navigation problems on the forums.

Specifically, every page needs to be refreshed before it completes.

Click on a link and the page comes down, but some element on the page is hanging. Click refresh, the page appears.

My guess is that either a web analytics server or ad server is hanging.

plumsauce · 03-06-2007, 10:26 AM

Yep, even posting the message caused the same hang, refresh, display series of events.

jumpenjuhosaphat · 03-06-2007, 10:30 AM

If refreshing the page fixes it, then it's more than likely trouble with your browser, or perhaps your ISP. When you hit the refresh button, it has no effect on the server at all, except that a new request is sent requesting that the web page be sent again. Try using a different browser, if you are using Firefox, try IE, and vice versa. If that doesn't help, your ISP may be cacheing sites for you, and they may have a trouble with their cache.

plumsauce · 03-06-2007, 10:56 AM

Um, no.

I browse multiple sites at a time. It is definitely limited to this site tonight.

I am very aware of exactly what the refresh button does and what caches do.

I just did a control-N, open in new window with my sniffer turned on. The page, which is this page, did a single request and hung, the request was for /clientscript/vbulletin_global.js?v=360

And, dollars to donuts, I bet that this is going to happen again as soon as I post this.

plumsauce · 03-06-2007, 11:06 AM

Yep, hung again on:

POST /newreply.php?do=postrepy&t=8913

Same place, vbulletin_global.js

Waited 20 seconds, clicked refresh

First subsequent observed operation was

GET /thread8913.html?posted=1#post45952

jumpenjuhosaphat · 03-06-2007, 12:02 PM

Did you try viewing iwebtool in another browser? Did you get the same error?

plumsauce · 03-07-2007, 06:47 AM

No, I get a different error generated by thumbnails.iwebtool.com/src.js

Boatloads of them, but the page completes.

The errors are mostly of the variety "foo undefined".

I think that either the .js is causing problems, either in the code itself, or if I recall correctly, the site is possibly using gzip compression. IE can get very unhappy with gzip on a slow line.

Even though the pages complete in another browser, IE still wedges specifically on this site. And IE is my choice of poison.

midlandi · 03-07-2007, 08:47 AM

Must be your pc.
Ive tried in ie and firefox from home and work, no problems at all.

jumpenjuhosaphat · 03-07-2007, 09:48 AM

Thanks for bringing this to our attention plumsauce, I'll look into it.

plumsauce · 03-07-2007, 08:46 PM

Well, I accept that it is not happening to everyone.

But, in the same breath, I will say that just because it is not happening for someone in particular does not mean it is only unique to me.

At least in this case, someone took the trouble to look at the .js file and to look at the connection with a sniffer.

BTW, this was not happening to me a few months ago when I made my first visits to iwebtool. I was using the exact same setup and isp.

HTH,

plumsauce

03-06-2007, 10:24 AM	#1
plumsauce Newcomer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27	forum navigation problems Just wanted you to know that as of the time of the posting of this message, there are navigation problems on the forums. Specifically, every page needs to be refreshed before it completes. Click on a link and the page comes down, but some element on the page is hanging. Click refresh, the page appears. My guess is that either a web analytics server or ad server is hanging. __________________ free server uptime monitor and alerts - basicstate.com managed dns failover and loadbalance - edgedirector.com

03-06-2007, 10:26 AM	#2
plumsauce Newcomer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27	Re: forum navigation problems Yep, even posting the message caused the same hang, refresh, display series of events. __________________ free server uptime monitor and alerts - basicstate.com managed dns failover and loadbalance - edgedirector.com

03-06-2007, 10:30 AM	#3
jumpenjuhosaphat Forum Admin Contributor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 4,459	Re: forum navigation problems If refreshing the page fixes it, then it's more than likely trouble with your browser, or perhaps your ISP. When you hit the refresh button, it has no effect on the server at all, except that a new request is sent requesting that the web page be sent again. Try using a different browser, if you are using Firefox, try IE, and vice versa. If that doesn't help, your ISP may be cacheing sites for you, and they may have a trouble with their cache. __________________ Storage Sheds Lost Forum

03-06-2007, 10:56 AM	#4
plumsauce Newcomer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27	Re: forum navigation problems Um, no. I browse multiple sites at a time. It is definitely limited to this site tonight. I am very aware of exactly what the refresh button does and what caches do. I just did a control-N, open in new window with my sniffer turned on. The page, which is this page, did a single request and hung, the request was for /clientscript/vbulletin_global.js?v=360 And, dollars to donuts, I bet that this is going to happen again as soon as I post this. __________________ free server uptime monitor and alerts - basicstate.com managed dns failover and loadbalance - edgedirector.com

03-06-2007, 11:06 AM	#5
plumsauce Newcomer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27	Re: forum navigation problems Yep, hung again on: POST /newreply.php?do=postrepy&t=8913 Same place, vbulletin_global.js Waited 20 seconds, clicked refresh First subsequent observed operation was GET /thread8913.html?posted=1#post45952 __________________ free server uptime monitor and alerts - basicstate.com managed dns failover and loadbalance - edgedirector.com

03-06-2007, 12:02 PM	#6
jumpenjuhosaphat Forum Admin Contributor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 4,459	Re: forum navigation problems Did you try viewing iwebtool in another browser? Did you get the same error? __________________ Storage Sheds Lost Forum

03-07-2007, 06:47 AM	#7
plumsauce Newcomer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27	Re: forum navigation problems No, I get a different error generated by thumbnails.iwebtool.com/src.js Boatloads of them, but the page completes. The errors are mostly of the variety "foo undefined". I think that either the .js is causing problems, either in the code itself, or if I recall correctly, the site is possibly using gzip compression. IE can get very unhappy with gzip on a slow line. Even though the pages complete in another browser, IE still wedges specifically on this site. And IE is my choice of poison. __________________ free server uptime monitor and alerts - basicstate.com managed dns failover and loadbalance - edgedirector.com

03-07-2007, 08:47 AM	#8
midlandi iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,172	Re: forum navigation problems Must be your pc. Ive tried in ie and firefox from home and work, no problems at all. __________________ Webmaster Resources & Forums SubmitterBot - Semi-automatic directory submission tool

03-07-2007, 09:48 AM	#9
jumpenjuhosaphat Forum Admin Contributor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 4,459	Re: forum navigation problems Thanks for bringing this to our attention plumsauce, I'll look into it. __________________ Storage Sheds Lost Forum

03-07-2007, 08:46 PM	#10
plumsauce Newcomer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27	Re: forum navigation problems Well, I accept that it is not happening to everyone. But, in the same breath, I will say that just because it is not happening for someone in particular does not mean it is only unique to me. At least in this case, someone took the trouble to look at the .js file and to look at the connection with a sniffer. BTW, this was not happening to me a few months ago when I made my first visits to iwebtool. I was using the exact same setup and isp. HTH, plumsauce __________________ free server uptime monitor and alerts - basicstate.com managed dns failover and loadbalance - edgedirector.com

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