Google controlling how much you bid

garyb · 12-28-2006, 05:52 AM

I'm sure anyone who uses Google's AdWords has noticed when you submit a new group of keywords, you'll find many of them are disabled a day or two later. There will be a note in red in the disabled keywords saying something like: "You need to increase the bid to x dollars in order to reactivate this keyword". I've never given this much thought until lately, thinking that Google was just wanting to improve the quality of the listings you submit...

Earlier in December, I submitted approximately 50 new keywords and when I logged in a day later, I noticed 48 of these keywords were disabled. Of the 48 that were disabled, 45 of them said that I needed to increase the bid to $5.00 in order to reactivate them. I searched for many of these keywords at Google and saw that many of them had only 1 or 2 sites listed in the Adwords results. I thought it would be safe to bid $5.00 as generally when you only have 2 or 3 competitors in the field I am in the bids will usually never top 30 or 40 cents.

I logged in about one week later and noticed that many of these new keywords were costing about $4.80 to $4.90 per click and I had a huge bill adding up quickly. My first thought was the competitors were doing this, but after checking the keywords I noticed that we had different competitors on many of the keywords. What a coincidence that everyone was bidding that high... I was beginning to get suspicious that Google was doing the same thing to our competitors, telling them they needed to bid nearly $5.00 to activate the keywords. That is the only thing that made sense to me why all the bids were costing so much. I reguested for Google to send me a log of who has been clicking our ads. They denied my request. I suspect they are hiding something. This is their response:

Hello xxxxx,

Thank you for your email. I understand that you would like to know who is
clicking on your ads.

We are not able to release any information on the users that are clicking
on your ads. However, if you have access to your site's web logs, they
will often contain information on the IP addresses of the users that are
clicking on your ads. You can obtain this information from your webmaster.

If you have additional questions, please visit our Help Center at
https://adwords.google.com/support to find answers to many frequently
asked questions. Or, try our Learning Center at
http://www.google.com/adwords/learningcenter/ for self-paced lessons that
cover the scope of AdWords.

We look forward to providing you with the most effective advertising
available and wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Sincerely,

Anuradha Bhagi
The Google AdWords Team

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mani · 12-28-2006, 07:14 PM

Thanks for sharing this information with us

swazi · 01-03-2007, 10:47 AM

Garyb, and can you contact your webmaster and ask him for that information?

pimpxmexallxnight · 01-03-2007, 05:57 PM

thanks for the info ill put it to good use

geeklinu · 01-03-2007, 08:25 PM

Google Control Almost Everything.. Don't shout...

powerful_rogue · 01-17-2007, 11:31 PM

Im new to all this, but I thought it was strange that after 24 hours google told me I needed to increase my bid. There were only 2 other websites i was competing against.

trichnosis · 02-01-2007, 12:41 AM

thanks for sharing this. in fact google is knowing and conttoling everythink on the internet

cloudybutnice · 02-05-2007, 11:36 AM

Google seem to think they are un-touchable and invincible due to their size and influence on the world.

TVT · 02-07-2007, 10:17 AM

Cheers for that.. very useful

Saight · 03-03-2007, 09:20 PM

usefull info! Thank you for sharing it with us, appreciated!
Saight

eprosumer · 03-18-2007, 10:37 PM

There might be a hidden reason behind this... Were you submitting your adwords to be shown on sites (CONTENT NETWORK) , or only on google search.
That might help you with your quest for the truth!

linko · 03-25-2007, 06:51 PM

Cheers for that.. very useful

minfotech · 04-13-2007, 02:13 PM

Thats good to know, we get the same problem every now and again. I think it has more to do with your competitors bids but it may be google. After all, it is thier service to sell.

bobochacha · 04-23-2007, 07:03 PM

Thanks for sharing this information with us

coderpl · 04-24-2007, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeklinu

Google Control Almost Everything.. Don't shout...

and that is the reason why the earn lots of money on their programm

12-28-2006, 05:52 AM	#1
garyb Newcomer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1	Google controlling how much you bid I'm sure anyone who uses Google's AdWords has noticed when you submit a new group of keywords, you'll find many of them are disabled a day or two later. There will be a note in red in the disabled keywords saying something like: "You need to increase the bid to x dollars in order to reactivate this keyword". I've never given this much thought until lately, thinking that Google was just wanting to improve the quality of the listings you submit... Earlier in December, I submitted approximately 50 new keywords and when I logged in a day later, I noticed 48 of these keywords were disabled. Of the 48 that were disabled, 45 of them said that I needed to increase the bid to $5.00 in order to reactivate them. I searched for many of these keywords at Google and saw that many of them had only 1 or 2 sites listed in the Adwords results. I thought it would be safe to bid $5.00 as generally when you only have 2 or 3 competitors in the field I am in the bids will usually never top 30 or 40 cents. I logged in about one week later and noticed that many of these new keywords were costing about $4.80 to $4.90 per click and I had a huge bill adding up quickly. My first thought was the competitors were doing this, but after checking the keywords I noticed that we had different competitors on many of the keywords. What a coincidence that everyone was bidding that high... I was beginning to get suspicious that Google was doing the same thing to our competitors, telling them they needed to bid nearly $5.00 to activate the keywords. That is the only thing that made sense to me why all the bids were costing so much. I reguested for Google to send me a log of who has been clicking our ads. They denied my request. I suspect they are hiding something. This is their response: Hello xxxxx, Thank you for your email. I understand that you would like to know who is clicking on your ads. We are not able to release any information on the users that are clicking on your ads. However, if you have access to your site's web logs, they will often contain information on the IP addresses of the users that are clicking on your ads. You can obtain this information from your webmaster. If you have additional questions, please visit our Help Center at https://adwords.google.com/support to find answers to many frequently asked questions. Or, try our Learning Center at http://www.google.com/adwords/learningcenter/ for self-paced lessons that cover the scope of AdWords. We look forward to providing you with the most effective advertising available and wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Sincerely, Anuradha Bhagi The Google AdWords Team ---------------- Learn from other AdWords users. Ask questions, share answers, and post your favorite AdWords tips. Find out more at http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-help

12-28-2006, 07:14 PM	#2
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01-03-2007, 10:47 AM	#3
swazi Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 167	Re: Google controlling how much you bid Garyb, and can you contact your webmaster and ask him for that information?

01-03-2007, 05:57 PM	#4
pimpxmexallxnight Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15	Re: Google controlling how much you bid thanks for the info ill put it to good use

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geeklinu Newcomer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9	Re: Google controlling how much you bid Google Control Almost Everything.. Don't shout...

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03-03-2007, 09:20 PM	#10
Saight Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 11	Re: Google controlling how much you bid usefull info! Thank you for sharing it with us, appreciated! Saight

03-18-2007, 10:37 PM	#11
eprosumer Junior Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 694	Re: Google controlling how much you bid There might be a hidden reason behind this... Were you submitting your adwords to be shown on sites (CONTENT NETWORK) , or only on google search. That might help you with your quest for the truth! __________________ Yahoo Adwords Free £60 or $25 When you join Yahoo Adwords! e2save - etosave etosave UK's Best deals on mobile phone contracts, £1.99 12 Month contracts... No joke!

03-25-2007, 06:51 PM	#12
linko Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 73	Re: Google controlling how much you bid Cheers for that.. very useful

04-13-2007, 02:13 PM	#13
minfotech Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 19	Re: Google controlling how much you bid Thats good to know, we get the same problem every now and again. I think it has more to do with your competitors bids but it may be google. After all, it is thier service to sell. __________________ www.romancup.com gaudioedward@yahoo.com

04-23-2007, 07:03 PM	#14
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