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Old 12-23-2006, 11:27 AM   #1
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Default 50 websites working together?!

Greetings,

i have around 50 tourism related websites from hotels and transportation companies much more also..., which all together might have around 3000 visitors per day. I have a few projects already working that should have around 3000 visitors each day, but it seems it just takes time...

i would want some tips in how to make all these websites work me out for a better PR position to all of them. if some hotel websites have only around 30visitors per day, how can i increse my keyword search engine and pr= visitors to lets say around 100 per day?


My problems are:


-I heard that search engines penalize same IP server websites, and community link farm websites. So, having the same 50 websites linking to the same ones wouldn't this be bad?

Please advise me on:

-how can i make powerful and smart ethical link exchange with all the websites. I want to increase my lower pR sites and get better also on my higher PR ones.

-I have websites in many languages. so lets say that each website has at least 2 or 3 languages. should i link to other website only in the same language pages? or can i do it to the same homepage?

-i would like to know a good stratergy to be able to get better results on my search engine results with all these websites.

-should i make links from higher PR pages to the lower websites? or just link the lower ones? and link the higher ones?


ANOTHER ISSUE:


i have for each site a blog, or a bunch of them working irecting people to the website. All my blogs together have around 1500 visitors per day.

my questions are

how can i increase my blogs pagerank? i already have a few with PR4 and 5, but the majority have below 3 or even 0.

1-should i actually link my .com pages to my blogs? and vice-versa?
2-or... should i only link blogs to blogs?
3-does the blogs with content increases website PR??

thank you for all the smart advises.!!

enjoy xmas!
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Default Re: 50 websites working together?!

You should link to your websites that will raise your pagerank, but try to get the websites to have the same content as you, blogs to blogs etc. that will raise your website.
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That's funny, I was just reading up on this this morning. Matt Cutts says that having multiple websites on a single IP does not hurt. However, he hasn't commented on whether or not linking your sites together helps, but my guess, and as specualtion goes, it doesn't. If you have any duplicate content, I'd suggest that you get rid of the duplicated sites and just work on the ones that are unique. Having 50 sites isn't penalized, however, if you have 50 websites, the chances that you have enough time to commit to each one in order to make it of value to someone is slim to none.

Why do you have 50 websites that are so similar in the first place?
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Old 12-23-2006, 02:22 PM   #4
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Default Re: 50 websites working together?!

greetings,
my websites are not multiple websites. they are all distinct websites from different hotels for example. imagine this: a region. dozens of hotels. me with a large number of websites for different hotels in the region.

so i do have different domain names cos they are indeed different businesses, which offer same services... all my text is personalized text, personalized and distinct photos info etc.

so, Auberge Sahara offers the same services as Auberge Berberes and Desert Hotel as others like Auberge du Sud...many more...

the same goes with transportation companies. i have around 8 websites for transportation companies, they all offer the same type of products but they are not the same sites, companies or multiple websites with copied content.
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If you have any duplicate content, I'd suggest that you get rid of the duplicated sites and just work on the ones that are unique. Why do you have 50 websites that are so similar in the first place?

thank you for your answer, but, they are not the same site. just different businesses and companies that work in the same service. i have around 30 websites from hotels and around 10 of transportation companies. different names, content, photos but much alike on the same services as they are just hotels...

so my point is how can i take the most advantage of this? should i like the sites? or that just doesnt matter?

i mean, i notices that if i link a pr4 to another one, the linked one pagerank will increase... etc...

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hi!

i guess first you should watch matt's (head of the Google's Webspam team) video about it .
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3583760678227172395
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Greetings,
i would want some tips in how to make all these websites work me out for a better PR position to all of them. if some hotel websites have only around 30visitors per day, how can i increse my keyword search engine and pr= visitors to lets say around 100 per day?

keyword search is just a nightmare for hotels... (look at my nickname...)

The big problem is that all search engines are just polluted by these damned online-booking sites like expedia / bookings.com and all the other 100s of them.
If a search engine like the overrated Google would just do the job it was created for, you could just type a research for "hotel in lisbon" and get a list of hotels, not a hundred pages of online-booking sites, you looked for "hotel" not for "travel agents"!!!
Not only they appear in sponsored links (and it's ok, they pay for it), but they managed to get all top positions on Google (less on Yahoo)

When Google will promote more its LocalSearch (what are they waiting for?) your hotel sites will be easily found and visited by customers, let's hope they'll do it soon.
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Greetings,

i have around 50 tourism related websites from hotels and transportation companies much more also..., which all together might have around 3000 visitors per day. I have a few projects already working that should have around 3000 visitors each day, but it seems it just takes time...

i would want some tips in how to make all these websites work me out for a better PR position to all of them. if some hotel websites have only around 30visitors per day, how can i increse my keyword search engine and pr= visitors to lets say around 100 per day?


My problems are:


-I heard that search engines penalize same IP server websites, and community link farm websites. So, having the same 50 websites linking to the same ones wouldn't this be bad?

Please advise me on:

-how can i make powerful and smart ethical link exchange with all the websites. I want to increase my lower pR sites and get better also on my higher PR ones.

-I have websites in many languages. so lets say that each website has at least 2 or 3 languages. should i link to other website only in the same language pages? or can i do it to the same homepage?

-i would like to know a good stratergy to be able to get better results on my search engine results with all these websites.

-should i make links from higher PR pages to the lower websites? or just link the lower ones? and link the higher ones?


ANOTHER ISSUE:


i have for each site a blog, or a bunch of them working irecting people to the website. All my blogs together have around 1500 visitors per day.

my questions are

how can i increase my blogs pagerank? i already have a few with PR4 and 5, but the majority have below 3 or even 0.

1-should i actually link my .com pages to my blogs? and vice-versa?
2-or... should i only link blogs to blogs?
3-does the blogs with content increases website PR??

thank you for all the smart advises.!!

enjoy xmas!

If you will link all sites together and all of them belog to you..Google is smart enough to check site is..and its called linkfarm..I think you know what it means..its not working anymore..just harms all the seo..
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Default Re: 50 websites working together?!

Interlinking your websites is not link farming, it could be classed as cross linking but only if you linked every page of every site to every page of every site, if you simply have links to the 50 home pages at the bottom of each page that is O.K. there are lots' of genuine reasons for linking a group of websites together and it is not bad for SEO quite the opposite.
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I have looked into this quite alot and it is well confusing, by some peoples standards Dmoz would be a link farm, but it isn't it is a directory (becuase of the way the links are categorised), a link farm is where you have a site what is set up purely to link to other sites with no real content, I have seen a few of them and they are either affiliate marketing sites or MFA sites with little or no content (normally automatically generated through PHP or something), the sites have a block of links to other websites on each page, some of them can have 10,000 plus pages indexed by search engines and they can even have PR I have seen one with a PR of 6/10, people use these sites to artificially increase the link popularity of other websites. From my understanding cross linking is where you have a group of sites that have a table of links on where every page of every site links to every page of every site, this is blaitantly trying to dupe the search engines and it can get you penalised, however I have seen lot's of websites what link to each other like this, say you have a group of websites which are all part of the same group of companies, it is O.K. to have a section on each of the websites saying our group with a link to each of the websites in the group, I have seen lot's of websites that have done this where it has really worked for them, it increases link popularity, Google PageRank, and if you use search phrases as the links it can increase SERP's as well, the sites that I know have done this have thrived and none of them have been penalised or banned.

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That's great information David E. Rep added for your effort.
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