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Old 12-21-2005, 01:18 AM   #1
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I had been working on one site since more than a month ago, and my pr has increased by 2

Now how do I expect my positioning to behave? Will it burst up in higher positions, or no abnormal changes will be observed in my position?
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:36 AM   #2
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Why don't you use the tool provided by iwebtool to find out your future page rank?

http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_prediction
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:40 AM   #3
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I'm not saying about future page rank. My question is basically about the effect of PageRank on Search Engine Rankings.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:45 AM   #4
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Oh, well it should help it on it's keyword. I mean if you site wasn't indexed and then it gets a PR then it should help it out on it's keyword, what is the url?
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:03 AM   #5
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PageRank is a very small factor in determining search engine listings. With only a PR of 2, you probably won't see any changes.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:10 PM   #6
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it all depends how u maintain ur link backs

the more and better the higher pr next time
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:11 AM   #7
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Default Re: Page Rank & SE Rankings

visible page rank tells you nothing about how your site ranks for any certain term or how much traffic you get. Sites with PR 0 can rank for many keyword phrases while sites with PR8 may still not be on the first page for their desired terms. What you see in the toolbar is not reliable, it's what you do to increase your pr (getting links from high quality sites) that is important.
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it also depends on your competition as well.
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Default Re: Page Rank & SE Rankings

i think you will get higher listing if your PR is bigger - I've done some tests andfor some keywords only a PR increase by one did some cool things - getting the site listed up with a few google pages.
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:38 AM   #10
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page rank is a small factor in Google listings ,and then what is the most important factor?
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Old 03-01-2006, 10:24 PM   #11
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It IS the most important factor of course, provided you did the usual optimizations already like choosing a proper site title.

Here's why I believe it is. I've done experiments with getting inbound links back to one of my low-PR pages, from other high-PR pages. However the high-PR ones were fairly irreleveant sites to the low-PR one. This is an indication Google already discounts the value of irrelevant links in their PR calculation. The remaining relevant sites should thus greatly help your SERPs.
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I hate to be the one to blow your theory about PR and on page work. The links are what makes the difference. want proof? Type the term "click here" in any search bar and the adobe site comes up in the top (#1) yet they do not have it in their title or ANY other place on there page or in meta tags, or <h> tags and yet they rank high for it!. serps are mostly based on links with proper anchor text. Have you heard of Google bombimg? Try the word "failure" and see if George Bush and Michael Moore do not come up in the top of the serps. then look at their pages and code and see it that is there, I will save you the trouble. It is not. links with proper anchor text is the MOST important factor for high serps. On page work is something you should do. But proper links is the one thing you MUST do if you want top serps. I can take a new site with NO PR and in 3 to 4 weeks can get top serps for MOST keywords in MSN because they credit links quickly. yet I have no PR on it.Yahoo is the same but a little slower at crediting links. Also you can do a search on just about any term on any engine and check each site and some lower PR sites will outrank some Higher PR sites . And if the keyword is angel for example. All of the top 10 sites are relevent for the term, yet they have lower PR sites outranking higher PR sites. There are many factors involved in serps but links has the lions share of the factors for high serps.

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Old 03-02-2006, 08:05 AM   #13
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Default Re: Page Rank & SE Rankings

I fully agree with you.

What I was trying to say is, Google seems to completely discount inbound links from sites that are otherwise not directly related to yours. And this is already reflected in the PR value, methinks.

I don't see the page rank as a number, but more as the size of the neighborhood/community your site belongs to. The larger, the bigger the chance of getting proper anchor text from other sites you do not control.

If someone has PR7 sure you can outperform him with a PR3 site, simply first by fully optimizing the site & then, as you described already, by proper links, anchor text etc. from related sites you control.

However things get difficult if you attempt to get top3 placements in highly competitive search terms.

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I agree
I tend to use PR as a "report card" so to speak. And yes they have a lower "vote" value if they are non related. But, all links have some value. I will exchange links with just about any site( there are some I will not) because all votes(links) count. it is kind of like a company with a CEO at the board members meeting and it is a public(stock owned) company. The stock owners have their say(vote), and then the board members and then the CEO. All of their votes count but the CEO has the most powerfull vote, then the board members and then the share owners. you cant be penalized forlinks to you. If this could happen, there would be many people pointing bad sites at others sites to lower their serps.

By the way, the site I will not link to are sits that have porn, pharmacy,and gaming! the first 2 because they are in the LAW's crosshairs, and the latter because they tend to use blackhat SEO.

If they get grey barred I do not want a link pointing to them!

I will even do a link exchange with a non indexed site if it is new! I will help it get indexed and then I have a loyal link because I helped them when no one else would!.

I also check for NO FOLLOW tags also

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is any code sample for future page rank
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