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I heard people talking about being in the sandbox for 3 months or so. But Google Sandbox? Does it even work? I made www.grinkle.com about 20 days or so ago and so far im up on google and getting traffic from it. So google sandbox? whats your opinions guys

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I think google sanboxes everything, so a change in your website today will not actually get into the alogarythim for several months.

stOx

The duration of the sandbox effect (or ageing delay) is based on the market you are in and the amount of competition.
A site in a niche with low competition will be sandboxed for a shorter time than a site with high competition.

Also sometimes new sites will rank well for the first couple of month, Then they will disapear in the SERPS for anything upto a year when google recognise them as "new" and impose the ageing delay on them.

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stOx said most of the things correct. Also, you may notice Google sometimes gives good ranking to new websites. I believe Google trials out the new websites by placing them in good positions and may put them back to lower ranking once visitors do not visit them.

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I think - sandbox really exists, but only sometim and for some keyword (lol maybe random).
I was in sandbox about one year (grr), last 3months I was second or 3th
on some datacenter (i think randomize) and after i was go to second place
stable (i hope forever, but it is not comerecial project...)

Some people says: than, website is in sandbox, but google un-catch some special keywords (usually long or main keyword+2words)

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Katja

Hi!

I belive it exists and you are just lucky for now. I have 1 year and 20 days old site and according to some experts I am in sandbox.

I tryed my best to do research of the subject and from info I found it can last even up to 14 months. So I am starting to pray to lord allmighty that soon I will be in google serps for my main keywords.. even if on last page.

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i think my site got tossed in the sandbox because it was so "new" and allready had adsence on it! i Think they hold that againts you i was told not to put paying adds on the site till it is atleast 90 days old or google gets "Suspicious" and tosses you in the great old sandbox!

mpea

I’m not really sure people are agreeing on what they mean by "sandbox", What do people think it means, i would be intrested to know:

1 No traffic from, Google as Google isn’t listing you at all
2 Very little traffic from Google, as the site is limited, due to a limited search rank
3 No PR there for low rank, except for non competitive keywords, until the PR is updated by Google
4 Something else?
feel free to add to this list

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I find it to be a real shame about the confusion around the Web as to what the term "sandbox" means. Google, of course, would not admit to it and I do not blame them. But there are so many different definitions of what defines a site to be sandboxed.

I believe we, at the Search Engine Roundtable, was the first information site (outside of a forum) to publicly acknowledge the existence of some form of issue with Google and new sites. The first post we had was named New Sites = Poor Results in Google, that was before it had a name. In a WebmasterWorld thread linked to from the "New Sites = Poor Results in Google" entry, the term "sandbox" came about. Later on, guest author SEO Guy posted an entry here using that title The Sandbox Effect, which helped make its name. Then Garrett French, who was writing at WebProNews wrote an excellent, early recap of all the coverage and named it Google "SandBox Effect" Revealed. Since then the word sandbox has been discussed here dozens of times. But it seems to me based on the forums I am reading, (see this thread and the confusion there), that people do not know that the true definition of a sandboxed site, so here it is.

A site is sandboxed when it is new and does not rank for keyword phrases that are not incredibly competitive (such as a unique company name) in Google after making the page "search engine friendly" and after being indexed.

Some are mistaken that a sandboxed site is a site that has not been indexed by Google. That is wrong. Sandboxed sites are very much so indexed by Google, but have a hard time ranking for keyword phrases, no matter how competitive they are.

How does Google do it? Well that is for an other entry. I have my theories but so does everyone else.

Help set the record straight about the definition of the Google Sandbox.

mpea

Q1. Ok, does that mean the PR can still be updated, but once updated, you may still have the "sand box affect"?

Im not sure I actually believe in the sand box affect, but then im still not entirely clear on this definition.
For Instance reading above, people believe there is a period in which the "sandbox" has an affect, and after this period, is the "sandbox affect" completely gone?

Ive been tracking keywords and it seems on a daily bases my keywords are moving up the ranks one place at a time, so maybe new site aren’t affected by being in a sand box, but just simply being new. Maybe part of the ranking algorithm contains an age variable, this in affect will never disappear, just reduce relatively over time.

Q2. So would you say there is a time period for the "sandbox" ?
Q3. and after this period is the "sandbox affect" completely gone?
Q4. Does the sand box affect reduce slowly over time, or is it just turned off like a switch after the given period ?

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Katja

I belive sandbox is some kind of aging thing. An effort from google to reduce spam or something although I have read about sites that never saw sandbox but than that would mean that those who are in sandbox trigered some filter that threw them into sandbox.

I hope that sandbox just turns off one day and thats it but what is really behind that we will probably never know. Those who came out of the box found them selves ranking very well.

My site ranks 1st page in msn, yahoo without problem. First my site was on I dont know what page and slowly i came to 1st page. With google I dont even rank for my main keyword. I am nowhere to be found even if i go to the end results on last page. So even if I would have the worst result I would at least have one but at this moment I don´t exists in serps for my main keyword.

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mpea

I think every one gets thrown in the "sandbox" or "ageing process", I think it depends how competitive the word you want to get to the top of serps is. If its non competitve then you wont even notice the "ageing process" as you will already be at number 1, competitive words will obviously be more noticeable, it will just take ..... patients Katja, patients

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