ethical use of nofollow

jumpenjuhosaphat · 07-08-2006, 11:09 PM

If a directory owner were to use the nofollow construct in all of the standard(non feature) links, would that be considered unethical, considering the main purpose for most people to submit to a directory is for the link recognition? Also, if a link exchange took place, and you used the nofollow, or javascript, would that also be unethical. I'm wondering, because what if I just want to link to a site for added incoming traffic, and not to improve my link status with the search engines, or vice versa?

stOx · 07-09-2006, 01:02 AM

If you exchanged links on the basis that you would be exchanging spiderable links then it would be unethical, And practically theft. If people know that you are going to use nofollow then i don't see a problem. Though i can't see many people being willing to submit to a directory that uses nofollow, There would be no point and the directory would never be a sucess, Especially if you are are expecting a backlink from people submiting to the directory..

Steve Myers · 07-09-2006, 01:17 AM

The point in it's reason of people not pointing out there is nofollow is so they will submit, and yes I think it's wrong and should not be used at all, but the directory has that right as it's an option in the script.

However, people can see that you are using nofollow just by viewing the source code

Of course we all know that little trick, but a fair play should be done for both parties to make it a win win situation so both parties are satisified.

The more links you have on your site, the more traffic YOU will get because the keywords that the link you hold has. It's very important to allow follow so you can build your results and also allow an open search for people who are looking for that specific link that was just submitted or the one submitted a few weeks back.

Build your directory with honesty and your viewers will respect that and link back to you.

jumpenjuhosaphat · 07-09-2006, 02:38 AM

Are there directories out there that do this? I was wondering, because I keep seeing these submit to 20,000 directories, for example. Now who's to say that each and everyone of those directories don't have the nofollow construct in place? Or for that matter, who's to say that they even listed your link at all? Are there ways of checking this, obviously the link back checker doesn't list every link, and from what I've heard, Yahoo, Google, and MSN will never include all, or even close to all of your back links.

And how do you know if that list to 20,000 site doesn't just put in a submissoin at dmoz.org, with all of the dmoz copy's out there, your bound to be listed at hundred's of thounsands of directories if that were the case, but only after your site was edited by dmoz.

stOx · 07-09-2006, 07:27 PM

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Now who's to say that each and everyone of those directories don't have the nofollow construct in place?

Which is one reason why you shouldn't use auto-submit sevices.

If google see you get 20'000 links overnight you will spend the next year in the sandbox, and when you come out of the sandbox those links probably wont even count.

If you want to be in directories you should carefully select what directories you want to be in and submit by hand.

jumpenjuhosaphat · 07-09-2006, 09:24 PM

Okay, thanks for the advice stox. I read that mass submission was bad for site ranking. Why does google do this, is advertising bad from their point of view, or is there a downside to this kind of advertising from an SE point of view?

dre · 07-09-2006, 10:49 PM

I think if its to get traffic, then a nofollow would be an good idea.

Steve Myers · 07-09-2006, 10:50 PM

Even using nofollow will scare your visitors away because it would be considered a link farm if it's just to get links. This would defeat the purpose of the directory in all aspect.

07-08-2006, 11:09 PM	#1
jumpenjuhosaphat Forum Admin Contributor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 4,459 iTrader: 8	ethical use of nofollow If a directory owner were to use the nofollow construct in all of the standard(non feature) links, would that be considered unethical, considering the main purpose for most people to submit to a directory is for the link recognition? Also, if a link exchange took place, and you used the nofollow, or javascript, would that also be unethical. I'm wondering, because what if I just want to link to a site for added incoming traffic, and not to improve my link status with the search engines, or vice versa? __________________ Storage Sheds Lost Forum

07-09-2006, 01:02 AM	#2
stOx Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 262 iTrader: 0	Re: ethical use of nofollow If you exchanged links on the basis that you would be exchanging spiderable links then it would be unethical, And practically theft. If people know that you are going to use nofollow then i don't see a problem. Though i can't see many people being willing to submit to a directory that uses nofollow, There would be no point and the directory would never be a sucess, Especially if you are are expecting a backlink from people submiting to the directory.. __________________ Increases PageRank® and BackLinks \| GoogTube Video

07-09-2006, 01:17 AM	#3
Steve Myers Junior Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 544 iTrader: 0	Re: ethical use of nofollow The point in it's reason of people not pointing out there is nofollow is so they will submit, and yes I think it's wrong and should not be used at all, but the directory has that right as it's an option in the script. However, people can see that you are using nofollow just by viewing the source code Of course we all know that little trick, but a fair play should be done for both parties to make it a win win situation so both parties are satisified. The more links you have on your site, the more traffic YOU will get because the keywords that the link you hold has. It's very important to allow follow so you can build your results and also allow an open search for people who are looking for that specific link that was just submitted or the one submitted a few weeks back. Build your directory with honesty and your viewers will respect that and link back to you.

07-09-2006, 02:38 AM	#4
jumpenjuhosaphat Forum Admin Contributor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 4,459 iTrader: 8	Re: ethical use of nofollow Are there directories out there that do this? I was wondering, because I keep seeing these submit to 20,000 directories, for example. Now who's to say that each and everyone of those directories don't have the nofollow construct in place? Or for that matter, who's to say that they even listed your link at all? Are there ways of checking this, obviously the link back checker doesn't list every link, and from what I've heard, Yahoo, Google, and MSN will never include all, or even close to all of your back links. And how do you know if that list to 20,000 site doesn't just put in a submissoin at dmoz.org, with all of the dmoz copy's out there, your bound to be listed at hundred's of thounsands of directories if that were the case, but only after your site was edited by dmoz. __________________ Storage Sheds Lost Forum Last edited 07-09-2006 at 02:41 AM.

07-09-2006, 09:24 PM	#6
jumpenjuhosaphat Forum Admin Contributor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 4,459 iTrader: 8	Re: ethical use of nofollow Okay, thanks for the advice stox. I read that mass submission was bad for site ranking. Why does google do this, is advertising bad from their point of view, or is there a downside to this kind of advertising from an SE point of view? __________________ Storage Sheds Lost Forum

07-09-2006, 10:49 PM	#7
dre wo0h0o Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 457 iTrader: 2	Re: ethical use of nofollow I think if its to get traffic, then a nofollow would be an good idea. __________________ Scrizzle.com - Dre's Blog Enjoy Yourself! SEOContest2008 Myspace Proxy

07-09-2006, 10:50 PM	#8
Steve Myers Junior Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 544 iTrader: 0	Re: ethical use of nofollow Even using nofollow will scare your visitors away because it would be considered a link farm if it's just to get links. This would defeat the purpose of the directory in all aspect.

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