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Old 12-06-2007, 02:50 PM   #1
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Default Google is unimpressed with both depth of content and with content changes? Yes?

I just would like confirmation, folks, of something which has come up in the past few months inside other threads.

It has been said by forum people I respect, that Google takes no account of the depth of content on a site - well, probably beyond a minimum number of pages, say 12.

It has also been said that Google takes no account of any changes to a page per se.

Is this right or have I got it wrong? I appreciate that the more depth of content, if the pages are optimised, will generate entry traffic to a site.

These two issues keep being touched on in other posts, but they might be worth bringing out in their own right.

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Old 12-06-2007, 03:33 PM   #2
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Default Re: Google is unimpressed with both depth of content and with content changes? Yes?

Hi J, Ihad always understood that google 'likes' changing content, but as with all things SEO this is only one factor - obviously high quality sites like Wikapedia will be largely static but well respected by G. I figure that changing content is another tool in the box and certailnly won't hurt. It definitely makes Google revist your site more often, so means that when you do do updates they will be seen by searchers sooner.

I've no idea on the 'depth' question
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:13 PM   #3
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Default Re: Google is unimpressed with both depth of content and with content changes? Yes?

Hi there

I dont see how the depth of ur site thing can be true, there are some massive sites out there, so long as the pages are crawlable theres no reason why they wouldnt be crawled.

As for the 2nd option, changing a webpage isnt going to make it more relevant and why should it ? otherwise people would change pages for the sake of changing them ?

So that really depends on what kind of website you have, obviously some pages need to be changed, but thats one reason why you should always have quality content on all ur pages.

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Old 12-06-2007, 08:12 PM   #4
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Default Re: Google is unimpressed with both depth of content and with content changes? Yes?

Thanks guys. It is an important issue becase the most critical resource we have is our time and how we spend it. Nothing costs more than that.

For the moment - and a lot of folks find this very difficult to do - please forget the visitor experience issue. I'll deal with that as appropriate, and it is a separate matter from Serps.

I can spend my time on a web site adding pages, I can spend my time revising web pages, or I can spend my time on building blog sites, or new web sites.

Take a simple issue, I can open four different web sites which are loosely related to each other, optimise each page and leave them there in a static situation attracvting slightly different markets. Or I can run them together in one web site provided they are loosely related and then I can keep updating it.

What do you experienced folk think?

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Old 12-07-2007, 02:42 AM   #5
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Default Re: Google is unimpressed with both depth of content and with content changes? Yes?

Number of pages is a factor determining the authority of the site. But thats just one of many factors. Also Google changes their algorithm time to time to make it harder manipulate the ranking.
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Default Re: Google is unimpressed with both depth of content and with content changes? Yes?

Number of pages effect the PR, but it's very small. Would estimate 10,000 unique pages about the same as one PR3 page, so you see it's takes a lot of pages before that gets anywhere.
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Default Re: Google is unimpressed with both depth of content and with content changes? Yes?

As far as I know the more content and the more often you have new stuff added to your site the better, I should imagine this is limited by many other things and wont get you high rankings alone like with any other SEO it is a matter of covering as many bases as possiable so you come out better than your competitors.
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Default Re: Google is unimpressed with both depth of content and with content changes? Yes?

Thanks Chart Music. As ever right on the button of the question I asked. By giving me an order of magnitude like that I can forget about depth of site.

Tell me, what is your view of frequency of change to a page. To be honest I have pages and sites which are quite well ranked on main keywords but the sites are static. This leads me to the conclusion that frequent changes to a page don't help a lot.

Using common sense, if it did help then there would be freeware around which would rotate the copy on your page!

Thanks everyone else (nearly everyone) for ignoring the visitor experience
as I asked. This would just get in the way and is a separate issue.

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Old 12-09-2007, 05:51 PM   #9
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Default Re: Google is unimpressed with both depth of content and with content changes? Yes?

There is sort of, most common way to make sure your site always has new content on is to have an RSS feed with the latest news on the area your site covers which have been popular for ages now, I think the time when this was an important factor has pasted but it still is a factor in your overall rank as far as I know.
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