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Old 11-08-2007, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default Death to Directories, the future of SEO

I know I’m going to be hated for this one since many of you will own directories/blogs/article based site.

However, I’m a little confused

Its seems Matts Cutts has said out right that people should report paid links
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"paid articles/reviews/posts should be done in a way that doesn’t affect search engines"

Yet at the same time

"Directory listings are fine providing the purpose of the fee is for a selective review"

Does this mean the directories should be adding paid links with no-follow, how much is a reasonable price for a review?

Although google may NEVER penalize any site for submitting to directories, I feel the power of directories will become less significant over time, and am looking to the future of SEO. The reason I believe this is because the is no defined price of a review (it will change form person to person), directories aren’t really a fair way of making a site rank high on serp results (a large company can pay thousands of people to submit sites, and write articles)

Although writhing articles, and submitting to directories still remain an important part of SEO... will these remain an important part of SEO... surely not forever.

Significant links for relevant sites and Anchor text I feel will remain important for awhile, but directories link out to so many various non related topics

Content will remain important...

What about things like the number of revisits from the same ip address.... surely this is a nonbiased method of ranking (but still fake able). This may or may not be the case for the future of SEO, but one thing I feel is certain.

Directories and articles will not remain the future of SEO for to long... better to spend time on link baiting with good content, then wasting time on artificial back links
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:20 PM   #2
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

Why would you be hated for stating your opinion? Freedom of speech applies everywhere, as far as I'm concerned.


I wouldn't say directories don't have a future, it's the way they are being managed that is the issue here, there are thousands of web directory owners that got their view on web directories wrong, they are trying to swap to the 'regular directory owner' now, but it is a fact that it takes time for a person to change, so will the whole game be.

If you go back in history, six months ago if you went on DP, you would see that "all" or at least the majority of the directory owners purchased paid links in order to promote their web directories, gain a high pagerank and simply forgot the purpose of a web directory.

Web directories are like search engines, though, they are maintained by humans, that makes them much better than search engines if you see it from a perspective. It may not provide as many results as a search engine does, but hey, directories are capable of 'staying-away from unfamilyfriendly links', does a search engine?

I believe web directories are perfect, if you play your cards right. Just my view of this kind of web sites, I manage two web directories at the moment, they are at their early stages, though it doesn't keep me from developing the network, adding useful features for browsers.

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Old 11-09-2007, 12:27 AM   #3
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

LOL. When I started a similar thread on another forum lot of people started screeming "This issue has been discussed already...bla bla bla...".
Directory business has lost lot of its appeal in last few months. I personally spent several thousand dollars at the beginning of this year. Ah! only if I knew this was coming.
Apparently Google is trying to give more importance on page content these days.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:34 AM   #4
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

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Apparently Google is trying to give more importance on page content these days.


Hmm, so you think page content will/is the future... many people still feel internal and exteranl inbound and outbound anchor text is the most important.

However, I do feel strongly tha inbound links from site that also link out to many other non related sites will definately not be the future. (its something that would be very easy to detect).

So having anchor links, not from directories/blogs/forums/article submission sites, but sites that do not link out commonly and are both relevant and 'strong' will stay an important factor for a little while.

Now once again, this will not occur for ever, because the future of SEO will then no longer be directories/blogs/forums/article submission, but instead, having multiple sites. So business will buy up multiple sites, and link to their selves (3way/xway linking).... and hence SEO will have changed again.

I’m predicting one of the possible future methods of SEO will be having multiple sites (possibly on multiple hosts) and its something that will work now. But like all SEO techniques will take time, effort, and a bit of cash for multiple hosting.

This then becomes something less hard to fake….But easily detected by age of sites. Age of sites then becomes a much stronger factor… The way around this… buy up old relevant sites

Having said that, obviously these sites should have no duplicate content. SEO will keep shift... it’s the job of a good SEO optimisation expert to try and predict what these shift will be.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:56 PM   #5
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

I maybe blinkered, but I believe as long as the directory owners stay inside the guidelines ie: THESAURUS or equivelent definition of what your directory is being used for, as for everyone opinions, I'm afraid everything that falls out of the bottom end is not the problem of the directory owner.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:56 PM   #6
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

You know iv said it a million times and im gona say it once more, my site contains a directory, however i have added the "no follow" and went from a PR0-PR5, while at the same time big huge directories and forums were falling of the face of the net... sites with large amounts of links will drop dramiticly however use the "no follow" properly and reep the benifits.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:55 AM   #7
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

In this manner, what could be the future of the top directories like alive, aviva directories. Is their traffic decreased along with PR?
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:55 PM   #8
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

I think directories are still effective even it is old style of building one way links....Those penalized directories are those only involved in buying or paid links.... But I think free directory submissions are not included in this matter...
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:37 AM   #9
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

I'm sure why people are so frustrated, because directories are not going to die. But the situation is different, SEO doesn't mean to building links in directories.

Wake up guys ... try the other methods. Find out something new form of SEO.
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...SEO doesn't mean to building links in directories.

Wake up guys ... try the other methods. Find out something new form of SEO.

I agree... although I use it myself, directory links obvioulsy don't truly reflect the quality or relevance of a site. Google must continue to evolve, and in the end it is content that is most relevant to the searcher, but links can be used to differentiate between sites with similar content. COntent is king.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:39 AM   #11
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

My website (a home decor shop) doesn't currently have lots of contect that a search engine could really index because a lot of the design is pictures and our feeling was the lots of text would detract from the look-and-feel.

This means that I've been relying on directory links quite a lot. If search engines do move away from directories and towards content won't this mean that web pages will just become stuffed with more and more text? Does this always improve the relevancy or quality of a website?

I'm a newbie to this some please feel free to correct me!
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You know iv said it a million times and im gona say it once more, my site contains a directory, however i have added the "no follow" and went from a PR0-PR5, while at the same time big huge directories and forums were falling of the face of the net... sites with large amounts of links will drop dramiticly however use the "no follow" properly and reep the benifits.

the new route to go is definitely adding no follow. This way there is no impact on the search engines. It isn't worth the risk of ticking off Google.
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SEO working is lot's more than link in directory ,even design and planning of a website can be involved by SEO expert.
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Default Re: Death to Directories, the future of SEO

Directory submission is an easy way to get BL ,everybody know,GG know ,the more you pay the more you get (link=trusted),this is abusing of the system .
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