Google abandons PR

jumpenjuhosaphat · 10-02-2007, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepotiger

honestly I'm not sure about this
but I have face something strang
since monthes ago if you serach in google.com for query mybb
my site it was showen in page 7 and since only 15 day it's showen in page 2! but I can't find any update for google pr..
so how can we explain that, the sites effecting in the serp but not effected in thier pr

sorry for my bad english

Google updates their index on an almost constant basis...They also update their PR values at an almost constant basis....but they only export their updated PR values to the toolbar once in a great while. That's why sometimes you'll see me saying PR export instead of update....Although, I say update too. Technically, when you see PR changing, it's not actually changing, but Google has only exported their data to the toolbar.

Also, like Chart said, the position of your site is based on many many factors, of those factors, PR is only one. So PR really doesn't tell you where you should show up for certain searches.

pepotiger · 10-14-2007, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chart Music

pepotiger, Welcome to the forums

The serps for Google update often, that is a natural thing which is happening with your site being on page 2 and it's nothing to do with the PR.
The PR is only made public infrequently and this is what we are pondering on this thread.

thanks dear for make it more clear now I get the point

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmom

I'm sure google is working out the bugs in the algo changes and will updated after that.

I totaly agree with that, since I saw alot of index spam sites, and alot of paid links sites still have a high ranking so I think there I a bug fixes in google they days

Resonate · 10-14-2007, 05:46 PM

I believe were in the process of phasing out Google PR, I believe that i read an article relating to this from matt cutts

DOWN WITH PR, LET US HAVE OUR LIVES BACK ONCE AGAIN hehehe

vicdigi · 10-14-2007, 07:55 PM

Google remains on the mind of all, another PR update - I reckon so!

stock_post · 10-14-2007, 09:58 PM

I am too tired of it and the PR posts as well.

So, don't really care.

Richard Joseph · 10-15-2007, 05:57 PM

Well i thought i would share something i noticed the other day..

Using www.digpagerank.com

This site has a neat little feature that when checking a PR of a domain, it also finds fake PR by turning results Red "also" when and if a domains PR is changing the results change from green to Orange
= Orange for non confirmed

Now this tool i have used for some time.

It has Always turned the results orange when certain DC are changing to the new PR, meaning if u checked the first set of IPS with this tool and all the results came up as a PR4 but it noticed in one of the other DC's it was a different one then all your results would be orange -= meening it wasnt sure what your actual PR is..

So far this tool has never let me down

But the other day Oct8th when i checked my domain all results were orange
but no DCs were diff all 0.

The very next day all results went back to green and still showed PR0

In the past when results were orange it stayed during the PR update and only then, so from my experience with it .. its telling me my domains PR has been updated, however there was no change which is impossible with the number of really high PR backlinks "which are indexed by google"

So once again - To worry or not to worry.... That is the question..

If google was changing the pr however the toolbar hasnt changed, that would confirm this myth, however tools are not 100% acurate.

may just have been a glitch who knows.

ttyl guys

arunsiam · 10-22-2007, 02:57 PM

I wish google stop using PR. It is very useless.

sheena · 10-22-2007, 03:42 PM

It is possible to have another PR update. I have read that google is changing the algorithm and changed to page rate system. But we are still not sure, if there is PR update..Lets wait.

fellowknowbest · 10-25-2007, 07:43 AM

You can read some info from Andy Beard about the latest update : http://andybeard.eu/2007/10/pagerank-update.html

It seems that this forum is now PR4 , down from PR6.

camp185 · 10-26-2007, 09:28 PM

Sooner or later Google will decide to get rid of it. Why? It's data that can be manipulated. They will keep it for now though because it is the one thing that really separates them from the other search engines.

On a second note, Google's little "punish the link selling sites with low PR" idea is a huge mistake on their part. Many SEO professionals are also smart, not just Google employees, and they will figure another way to bring their sites to the top by understanding the search algorithym. This will devalue Google's stand out attribute, PR, making Google even with thier competitors if not behind. Google may be king right now, but if I were them I would be very worried about how well Microsofts Live.com works. Couple of big mistakes, and they will pull a Netscape.

Kevin Paquet · 10-27-2007, 12:27 AM

Pr Has Just Updated For Me!!

ev8321 · 10-27-2007, 02:32 AM

pr has always been a waste of time. keyword targeting, back links and search results are what matter.

jumpenjuhosaphat · 10-27-2007, 02:44 AM

Yeah, PR has been exported. I have a site that is only a month old that received it's share of PR, so it's obvious that Google hasn't given up PR.

Kevin Paquet · 10-27-2007, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ev8321

pr has always been a waste of time. keyword targeting, back links and search results are what matter.

the higher pr the site has, the better places in search results.

jumpenjuhosaphat · 10-27-2007, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Paquet

the higher pr the site has, the better places in search results.

That's just not true....PR has little to do with search results...

View Poll Results: Anymore more PR updates?
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10-14-2007, 05:46 PM	#18
Resonate Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: A Remote server Posts: 225	Re: Google abandons PR I believe were in the process of phasing out Google PR, I believe that i read an article relating to this from matt cutts DOWN WITH PR, LET US HAVE OUR LIVES BACK ONCE AGAIN hehehe __________________ Seo Consultancy W3Seo Search engine optimization & Web development forums

10-14-2007, 07:55 PM	#19
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10-15-2007, 05:57 PM	#21
Richard Joseph IWT Moderator Bum Contributor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 337	Re: Google abandons PR Well i thought i would share something i noticed the other day.. Using www.digpagerank.com This site has a neat little feature that when checking a PR of a domain, it also finds fake PR by turning results Red "also" when and if a domains PR is changing the results change from green to Orange = Orange for non confirmed Now this tool i have used for some time. It has Always turned the results orange when certain DC are changing to the new PR, meaning if u checked the first set of IPS with this tool and all the results came up as a PR4 but it noticed in one of the other DC's it was a different one then all your results would be orange -= meening it wasnt sure what your actual PR is.. So far this tool has never let me down But the other day Oct8th when i checked my domain all results were orange but no DCs were diff all 0. The very next day all results went back to green and still showed PR0 In the past when results were orange it stayed during the PR update and only then, so from my experience with it .. its telling me my domains PR has been updated, however there was no change which is impossible with the number of really high PR backlinks "which are indexed by google" So once again - To worry or not to worry.... That is the question.. If google was changing the pr however the toolbar hasnt changed, that would confirm this myth, however tools are not 100% acurate. may just have been a glitch who knows. ttyl guys __________________ Please, apply the signature policy Best cpanel Host Vancouver Storage Containers

10-22-2007, 02:57 PM	#22
arunsiam Smurf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: www.arunsiam.com Posts: 27	Re: Google abandons PR I wish google stop using PR. It is very useless. __________________ กระเป๋า พรีเมี่ยม พลาสติก ของชำร่วย premium plastic bag packaging gift

10-22-2007, 03:42 PM	#23
sheena Junior Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 595	Re: Google abandons PR It is possible to have another PR update. I have read that google is changing the algorithm and changed to page rate system. But we are still not sure, if there is PR update..Lets wait. __________________ search engine optimization professional seo

10-25-2007, 07:43 AM	#24
fellowknowbest Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 103	Re: Google abandons PR You can read some info from Andy Beard about the latest update : http://andybeard.eu/2007/10/pagerank-update.html It seems that this forum is now PR4 , down from PR6. __________________ My Sites :J1 tax back / Wordze Coupon /

10-26-2007, 09:28 PM	#25
camp185 Newcomer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 22	Re: Google abandons PR Sooner or later Google will decide to get rid of it. Why? It's data that can be manipulated. They will keep it for now though because it is the one thing that really separates them from the other search engines. On a second note, Google's little "punish the link selling sites with low PR" idea is a huge mistake on their part. Many SEO professionals are also smart, not just Google employees, and they will figure another way to bring their sites to the top by understanding the search algorithym. This will devalue Google's stand out attribute, PR, making Google even with thier competitors if not behind. Google may be king right now, but if I were them I would be very worried about how well Microsofts Live.com works. Couple of big mistakes, and they will pull a Netscape. __________________ Create a free poll for your website!

10-27-2007, 12:27 AM	#26
Kevin Paquet Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 58	Re: Google abandons PR Pr Has Just Updated For Me!! __________________ Read the signature rules!

10-27-2007, 02:32 AM	#27
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10-27-2007, 02:44 AM	#28
jumpenjuhosaphat Forum Admin Contributor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 4,459	Re: Google abandons PR Yeah, PR has been exported. I have a site that is only a month old that received it's share of PR, so it's obvious that Google hasn't given up PR. __________________ Storage Sheds Lost Forum

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