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| Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: chichester england
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![]() | We had the site up and running in mid July. Google indexed most of it immediately. But there was one rather crucial page not indexed (out of a total of 11 at that time) the page is http://www.lastminutecottageholiday....rscotland.html Then about ten days ago I added another six or more pages but none of them has been indexed - maybe a bit early. I use the Google sitemap. Google's advice to webmasters is only to advise them of the index page. Any advice? I'd be grateful as always. John |
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| iWEBTOOL Representative Join Date: Sep 2007
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![]() | Google may take some time updating. The best thing to do is remain patient with it. I do suggest you have a blank robots.txt file. your-domain.com/robots.txt All search engines use this file to determine rather to index a particular page or not. If this page is unreachable, some search engines do not index you at all. Upload a blank text file to robots.txt.
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| iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hungary
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | John, as far as i know mostly PageRank is determined to decide which page will be indexed and as i see at your main page there are many outgoing links ponting to different domains, which make indexing more difficoult because of the PR leakage. I think you could treat the situation with smart use of nofollow.
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| iWEBTOOL SEO Advisor Contributor Join Date: May 2007
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![]() ![]() | Bagi I disagree with what you are saying as quality outbound links to on topic domains (preferably authorative) will theme your site, and get it ranking higher. Outbound links help rather than hinder, but adding 'nofollow' is basically telling Google that you don't trust the site you are linking too and too many no follow links more or less tells google that your site is a bag of old bones. I NEVER use no follow, if a site is worth linking to then it gets full benefit, if not then I don't link to it. A 20 page site should be spidered with a single link from another site. I would try to get a deep link to one of your pages if possible, that should wake google bot up. That said, has google visited your site since you pinged it? I can see 17 pages listed in Google. Try getting a deep link to the autumn page and check if google has visited. I would upload an xml sitemap for google just to see how it reacts. You see the way it works is that googlebots are busy little spiders, and the last thing they want to do is pop all the way back to your site if nothing has changed. SO this is how it works they visit, then they visit within a day or so. Then again a day or so. If nothing has changed, they sett the revisit to 2 days, then 3 then up and up, until eventually it might be set to 90 days if nothing has changed for like 12 months. This is where the 'new content ranks better' myth comes from. That and the old boost Altavista used to give new pages.
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| iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hungary
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I need to insert a little explanation here. When i wrote smart use of nofollow i thought about the map links with anchor like this ky146ad or eh421nt.
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| Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: chichester england
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![]() | Blimey, you blokes are fast. And good, obviously, thank you all three. Wish I could get this level of service from the local plod when I report undue noise from the neighbours. Lol Kidding, my neighbours don't make undue noises, and I regularly send £60 to the Speed Cops Benevolent Fund to accumulate heart-warming sets of little points in exchange. 3 more and I can cash them all in for a bus pass. I can get links to each of these pages from another site and will do so. Old Welsh, I'm looking at my sitemap in google and they say they have indexed 11 pages - how did you "ping" it to see 17? Sorry it is such a dumb question. Luke, does that mean I just add another page to the site, with the extension /robots.txt leave it blank and upload it. Sorry to be thick, I'm sure you don't mean this. Really grateful chaps, truly. John
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| iWEBTOOL SEO Advisor Contributor Join Date: May 2007
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![]() ![]() | to see what google has indexed use site:www.yourdomain.com it will display all pages in the google index using that domain.
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![]() | jfranktoo; Yep! Just add a blank page with the filename robots.txt.
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| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006
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![]() | Hi there Your site is still relatively new, i wouldnt worry about it just yet, so long as you keep ur sitemap up to date, your sitemap looks fine, as old welsh guy said above you could get some deep link to your site, a few good quality links into your site, should help you. Woc |
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| Newcomer Join Date: Sep 2007
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![]() | Get good backlinks and you do not need sitemap i think |
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| iWEBTOOL SEO Advisor Contributor Join Date: May 2007
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![]() ![]() | If google has set a time to revisit to say 2 months, then adding a sitemap will allow google to see what it is missing. This should then fire googlebot into action to visit the site and grab the new content. Ordinarily I wouldn't recommend a sitemap for a site as simple as this, and the deeplinks should do it. The reason I suggested it was to speed things up, as the missing page is the autumn page, and autumn is but a few weeks away in the UK so time is of the essence here ![]()
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| Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: India
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![]() | it can take time, just have patience... Even some of my new web pages are indexed after 1 month but showing the cache date of creating date. |
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![]() ![]() | I know people are saying just give it time, but when the original poster said 'new site' he meant newly redesigned site. The domain was already well known to google.
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| Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: chichester england
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![]() | Thanks everyone. Why is everyone so nice on this forum? The government must have set you all targets, obviously. I used a couple of well rated and relevant blog sites to deep link to the missing pages, and Google has now found the new pages. The site is obviously going to go down with the weight of traffic now. To be honest I think Lady G would claim she was going to do it anyway. But the Autumn page is still not there, and as that Old Head on Welsh shoulders has noted, it is getting a bit urgent. I'm going to do the robots page now. Is that a good idea to do with all new sites, do you think? Seriously, thanks. John PS You've made me a hero amongst my local internet experts. I tell them all how to do it with great confidence. |
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| Smurf Join Date: Aug 2007
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![]() | I agree to create a robots.txt file. However, I would add the following: User-agent: * Sitemap: http://www.YOURDOMAINHERE.com/sitemap.xml You can check your sitemap for errors in Google's Webmaster tools. If it's error free, just give Google some time to find your pages.
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