What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank

e-webtemplates · 08-20-2007, 10:30 PM

I have been posting my site www.e-webtemplates.com in forums, directory and etc. The PageRank for my home page is Zero.

But

One of my sublink http://www.e-webtemplates.com/html/grungestyle/1/index.htm got PageRank 3. I never posted this page anywhere .

Google also knows that webmasters are pumping their pageRank by creating backlinks.

Any thought about this ?

princess23 · 08-21-2007, 05:05 AM

IMO, you obtain IBL to have PR

OldWelshGuy · 08-21-2007, 07:40 AM

There are a couple of things to understand with this regard, but the main thing in this case (IMO) is that Toolbar Page rank (TBPR) is not live!

Chances are that at the time, on the datacantre that exported the TBPR maybe this was the only page indexed BY THAT CENTRE. I would say that once the next export happens all your pages will have a PR3 and your index page a PR4.

And links are what allows PR to flow across the web, internal and inbound.

mars guitars · 08-21-2007, 07:41 AM

Princess.. Too many TLAs! WTF is IBL?

Bagi Zoltán · 08-21-2007, 08:00 AM

IBL means inbound links. Links pointing to your site from different domains. Otherwise, may i ask you to omit the similar abbreviations like WTF?
Thank you in advance!

OldWelshGuy · 08-21-2007, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mars guitars

Princess.. Too many TLAs! WTF is IBL?

Anyone else see the irony here

TLA's WTHeck is an (Acornym)

DavidParker · 08-22-2007, 06:11 AM

With a few exceptions, whatever the PR is, more backlinks than the month before are required every month to improve PR.

jwd25 · 08-25-2007, 11:19 AM

Interestingly, how did you get such high PR3 even though your IBL are actually less than 50.. Is there a shift in Googles requisite for attaining high PR now..Sure be interested to hear from OWG.

e-webtemplates · 08-25-2007, 06:10 PM

One of another sublink http://www.e-webtemplates.com/html/g...le/7/index.htm in my site has PR 2.

usearchme · 08-25-2007, 11:18 PM

Hi

What i would like to know is, what does it matter ? so you got pr 3 on one page, why worry about it, its pointless just get on with promoting ur site even more !

Woc

OldWelshGuy · 08-26-2007, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwd25

Interestingly, how did you get such high PR3 even though your IBL are actually less than 50.. Is there a shift in Googles requisite for attaining high PR now..Sure be interested to hear from OWG.

PR isn't about the VOLUME of backlinks, it is about the VALUE of them. not all links are equal, as it depends how many links are pointing out from the page that is linking to you. IE two PR5 pages point to you, one page has 10 outbound links, the other has 20 outbound links. The one with 10 links is worth double the one with 20, even though they are both PR5 pages.

For the record, outbound links refers in this case to links on the anchor page, be they internal links, or links pointing out to another domain.

e-webtemplates · 08-26-2007, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usearchme

Hi

What i would like to know is, what does it matter ? so you got pr 3 on one page, why worry about it, its pointless just get on with promoting ur site even more !

Woc

My concern was not about those PR pages. I am trying to undersant how those page got some PR. So i can do samething to my other pages.

emarketer · 08-26-2007, 10:16 PM

I have a page all about backlinks and how it contributes to PageRank.
Here is a SEO checklist for optimization of links. The number at the end of each pointer show how important that is to improving PR. +3 is the best, -3 is the worse.

View source here: http://emarketing-strategy.blogspot....ch/label/links

Links - internal, inbound, outbound

Anchor text of inbound links
One of the most important factors for good rankings. It is important to have good inbound links but if it has a keyword in its anchor, even better.
+3

Origin of inbound links
The inbound link to your website should come from a reputable site with a high PR.
+3

Links from similar sites
The inbound links should come from a website with content similar to yours. This indicates that even your competition is voting for you and you are popular within your topical community.
+3

Links from .edu and .gov sites
Since, .edu sites and .gov sites are considered to be reputable, it is good to get a link from these types of websites. Domains with .edu and .gov are consider more reputable than .com. .biz, .info, etc. domains. Also, such links are hard to obtain.
+3

Number of backlinks
The more, the better. Also the reputation of the sites that link to you is very important. Try to have the appropriate keywords in the anchor text for optimal results.
+3

Anchor text of internal links
Since you have complete control of your links within your website, you have full control over this. Not as important as having the appropriate keywords in inbound links but it still affects you.
+2

Around-the-anchor text
The text that is immediately before and after the anchor text also affects SEO because it is a further indication of the relevance of the link – i.e. if the link is artificial or it is content relevant.
+2

Age of inbound links
The older the inbound links are, the better. A slow build up of inbound links over time is best. Getting a whole bunch all at once is not as good.
+2

Links from important directories
Being listed in DMOZ, Yahoo Directory and similar directories can boost your search engine ranking considerably. It is important to have links from quality directories otherwise your website might be flagged for link spamming.
+2

Number of outgoing links on the page that links to you
The fewer, the better because your link looks more important.
+1

Named anchors
Named anchors (the target place of internal links) are useful for SEO because it points a finger at a particular page, paragraph or text that is important.
eg. Jump to the Useful link Section “#links” is the named anchor.
+1

IP address of inbound link
MSN and Yahoo! may discard links from the same IPs or IP classes, so if you get inbound links for a website with the same IP, they might not be good. Google denies that they discriminate against links that come from the same IP address, so for Google the IP address can be considered neutral to the weight of inbound links.
+1

Inbound links from link farms and other suspicious sites
Stay away from link farms or similar sites. While having an inbound link from a link farm will not affect you negatively, you should not reciprocate the link in any way. You have full control of the website you link to so if you link to Warez or similar websites you will be penalize. If you are just getting an inbound link from such websites, search engines might not like it but they at least won't penalize you for it. The idea is that it is beyond your control to control what the link farm links to.
0

Too many outgoing links
If you page has too many links it is almost like a link farm and Google does not like that.
-1

Excessive linking, link spamming
It is bad to have too many links to/from the same sites (links to bad neighborhoods eg. Warez) because it suggests link buying or link spamming. In the best case, only some of the links are taken into account for SEO rankings.
-1

Outbound links to link farms and other suspicious sites
Outbound links to bad neighbors will kill your ranking.
-3

Cross-linking
Cross-linking occurs when site A links to site B, site B links to site C and site C links back to site A. More complex schemes are possible. Cross-linking looks like disguised reciprocal link trading and is penalized.
-3

Single pixel links
Single pixel links are an obvious attempt to manipulate search engines because no humans can se the pixel and no one would ever click on it.
-3

OldWelshGuy · 08-26-2007, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-webtemplates

My concern was not about those PR pages. I am trying to undersant how those page got some PR. So i can do samething to my other pages.

I think maybe you are missing the point

I will say it once again though. TOOLBAR PR is Months out of date so you can't see your proper PR.

The value of PR across your site is dependent on the navigation structure and inbound links. A flat nav structure will result in ALL pages having the same Pr, but a hierarchical structure will result in pyramid PR .

easycash81 · 08-28-2007, 08:29 AM

the more quality backlinks the higher will be the PR and serps

08-20-2007, 10:30 PM	#1
e-webtemplates Smurf Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 49	What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank I have been posting my site www.e-webtemplates.com in forums, directory and etc. The PageRank for my home page is Zero. But One of my sublink http://www.e-webtemplates.com/html/grungestyle/1/index.htm got PageRank 3. I never posted this page anywhere . Google also knows that webmasters are pumping their pageRank by creating backlinks. Any thought about this ? __________________ You may want to read the signature link rules!

08-21-2007, 05:05 AM	#2
princess23 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 200	Re: What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank IMO, you obtain IBL to have PR __________________ Pyramid Drinking games \|\| Baseball drinking games

08-21-2007, 07:40 AM	#3
OldWelshGuy iWEBTOOL SEO Advisor Contributor Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 675	Re: What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank There are a couple of things to understand with this regard, but the main thing in this case (IMO) is that Toolbar Page rank (TBPR) is not live! Chances are that at the time, on the datacantre that exported the TBPR maybe this was the only page indexed BY THAT CENTRE. I would say that once the next export happens all your pages will have a PR3 and your index page a PR4. And links are what allows PR to flow across the web, internal and inbound. __________________ Umbrella Consultancy Internet Marketing Company - Rugby Forum - Google Expert Blog

08-21-2007, 07:41 AM	#4
mars guitars Junior Guru Contributor Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 742	Re: What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank Princess.. Too many TLAs! WTF is IBL? __________________ Guitar strings and accessories, Rotosound bass strings, Guitar Capos and Guitar Gifts from Mars Guitars UK . . . .under development.. guitar string guide

08-21-2007, 08:00 AM	#5
Bagi Zoltán iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,854	Re: What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank IBL means inbound links. Links pointing to your site from different domains. Otherwise, may i ask you to omit the similar abbreviations like WTF? Thank you in advance! __________________ █ Time may come when you will need an excellent eCommerce shopping cart software █ free seo related web directory online marketing Free shopping cart

08-22-2007, 06:11 AM	#7
DavidParker Newcomer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 49	Re: What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank With a few exceptions, whatever the PR is, more backlinks than the month before are required every month to improve PR. __________________ website design company Website design graphic design tips Website design tips

08-25-2007, 11:19 AM	#8
jwd25 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 340	Re: What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank Interestingly, how did you get such high PR3 even though your IBL are actually less than 50.. Is there a shift in Googles requisite for attaining high PR now..Sure be interested to hear from OWG. __________________ Joseph SGS Office Space Rental Solution Provider

08-25-2007, 06:10 PM	#9
e-webtemplates Smurf Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 49	Re: What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank One of another sublink http://www.e-webtemplates.com/html/g...le/7/index.htm in my site has PR 2. __________________ You may want to read the signature link rules!

08-25-2007, 11:18 PM	#10
usearchme Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 308	Re: What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank Hi What i would like to know is, what does it matter ? so you got pr 3 on one page, why worry about it, its pointless just get on with promoting ur site even more ! Woc __________________ Free Chat Rooms Free Online Chat Rooms

08-26-2007, 10:16 PM	#13
emarketer Newcomer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12	Re: What is the relation between Backlink and pageRank I have a page all about backlinks and how it contributes to PageRank. Here is a SEO checklist for optimization of links. The number at the end of each pointer show how important that is to improving PR. +3 is the best, -3 is the worse. View source here: http://emarketing-strategy.blogspot....ch/label/links Links - internal, inbound, outbound Anchor text of inbound links One of the most important factors for good rankings. It is important to have good inbound links but if it has a keyword in its anchor, even better. +3 Origin of inbound links The inbound link to your website should come from a reputable site with a high PR. +3 Links from similar sites The inbound links should come from a website with content similar to yours. This indicates that even your competition is voting for you and you are popular within your topical community. +3 Links from .edu and .gov sites Since, .edu sites and .gov sites are considered to be reputable, it is good to get a link from these types of websites. Domains with .edu and .gov are consider more reputable than .com. .biz, .info, etc. domains. Also, such links are hard to obtain. +3 Number of backlinks The more, the better. Also the reputation of the sites that link to you is very important. Try to have the appropriate keywords in the anchor text for optimal results. +3 Anchor text of internal links Since you have complete control of your links within your website, you have full control over this. Not as important as having the appropriate keywords in inbound links but it still affects you. +2 Around-the-anchor text The text that is immediately before and after the anchor text also affects SEO because it is a further indication of the relevance of the link – i.e. if the link is artificial or it is content relevant. +2 Age of inbound links The older the inbound links are, the better. A slow build up of inbound links over time is best. Getting a whole bunch all at once is not as good. +2 Links from important directories Being listed in DMOZ, Yahoo Directory and similar directories can boost your search engine ranking considerably. It is important to have links from quality directories otherwise your website might be flagged for link spamming. +2 Number of outgoing links on the page that links to you The fewer, the better because your link looks more important. +1 Named anchors Named anchors (the target place of internal links) are useful for SEO because it points a finger at a particular page, paragraph or text that is important. eg. Jump to the Useful link Section “#links” is the named anchor. +1 IP address of inbound link MSN and Yahoo! may discard links from the same IPs or IP classes, so if you get inbound links for a website with the same IP, they might not be good. Google denies that they discriminate against links that come from the same IP address, so for Google the IP address can be considered neutral to the weight of inbound links. +1 Inbound links from link farms and other suspicious sites Stay away from link farms or similar sites. While having an inbound link from a link farm will not affect you negatively, you should not reciprocate the link in any way. You have full control of the website you link to so if you link to Warez or similar websites you will be penalize. If you are just getting an inbound link from such websites, search engines might not like it but they at least won't penalize you for it. The idea is that it is beyond your control to control what the link farm links to. 0 Too many outgoing links If you page has too many links it is almost like a link farm and Google does not like that. -1 Excessive linking, link spamming It is bad to have too many links to/from the same sites (links to bad neighborhoods eg. Warez) because it suggests link buying or link spamming. In the best case, only some of the links are taken into account for SEO rankings. -1 Outbound links to link farms and other suspicious sites Outbound links to bad neighbors will kill your ranking. -3 Cross-linking Cross-linking occurs when site A links to site B, site B links to site C and site C links back to site A. More complex schemes are possible. Cross-linking looks like disguised reciprocal link trading and is penalized. -3 Single pixel links Single pixel links are an obvious attempt to manipulate search engines because no humans can se the pixel and no one would ever click on it. -3 __________________ http://emarketing-strategy.blogspot.com/ Last edited 08-26-2007 at 11:03 PM.

08-28-2007, 08:29 AM	#15
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