Help me oh knowledgable ones!

megamomm · 08-01-2007, 11:46 PM

There are so very many directories out there which ones are the best in your opinion, for driving traffic?

- Dawn

stOx · 08-02-2007, 02:13 AM

for driving traffic they are all pretty much useless.

megamomm · 08-02-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stOx

for driving traffic they are all pretty much useless.

Seems to me that the big ones such as the yellow pages and such should have some traffic. If none of even the top directory sites bring in any traffic when put together something is seriously wrong with that picture...

It was quite a few years ago but I used to get plenty of traffic from Yahoo's directory back in the day. Is the only way to get traffic now really google and if so, how do personal sites even survive? It seems like the system in place, is completely against them.

It's not like they are going to shell out hundreds if not thousands on a non-commerical site for advanced seo help if they aren't that good at it or for google adsense.. it makes no sense to me that the major ways people used to get traffic (through things like getting links) have become monetized or convoluted to the point of insanity.

IMO, people seem too caught up in the whole google PR system. When did PR replace good ol' traffic? Isn't that what really counts? If you are boosting your site using directories and are getting zlich in terms of traffic from them but boosts your PR rating and a person pays for a link on your site, all you are really offering is to help drive their PR rating up a small fraction of a point, not boost visitors or sales..

So what good is it to pay 80 bucks for a link that's not going to increase revenue, because if you get enough of them you might go up a whole PR rank? Then all the hundreds of dollars you just spent on links might yeild a 29.99 sale or two more than it did before? The system just seems so backwards to me.

Please tell me what I am missing...

Bagi Zoltán · 08-02-2007, 02:34 PM

I'm not a senior participant of the online business, but since i've started it (a year ago) directories are maintained and launched rather for providing linking opportunity than distibuting webtraffic. I didn't know what caused the sudden advance of the search engines, but nowadays it's fact that beside the different paid advertisment search engine optimization is one of the only opportunities to gain traffic. Recently the directory submission hardly improve the number of visitors directly but a link from a high authority directory may improve your rankings.

megamomm · 08-02-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagi Zoltán

I'm not a senior participant of the online business, but since i've started it (a year ago) directories are maintained and launched rather for providing linking opportunity than distibuting webtraffic. I didn't know what caused the sudden advance of the search engines, but nowadays it's fact that beside the different paid advertisment search engine optimization is one of the only opportunities to gain traffic. Recently the directory submission hardly improve the number of visitors directly but a link from a high authority directory may improve your rankings.

which is why I don't understand why when choosing links to buy/partner with people are so obsessed with PR rating as oppossed to web traffic. If people are able to get high PR ratings using directories then PR should not be a real consideration when making those choices because they may have a decent rating with little traffic... which means the person who just purchased a link from them will not get in traffic or sales from the link. I mean, isn't the whole point of it all getting people to your site?

and doesn't the system kind of render personal websites useless by monetizing their means of having their sites seen.... No wonder blogs are so popular now. It's the only way someone can actually be seen by more than five people without having a marketing budget. Geez...

Sorry, I am a ranter!

When I see something skewed and broken it just makes me mad and this system appears to be both.

drumsoloartist · 08-02-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by megamomm

which is why I don't understand why when choosing links to buy/partner with people are so obsessed with PR rating as oppossed to web traffic. If people are able to get high PR ratings using directories then PR should not be a real consideration when making those choices because they may have a decent rating with little traffic... which means the person who just purchased a link from them will not get in traffic or sales from the link. I mean, isn't the whole point of it all getting people to your site?

and doesn't the system kind of render personal websites useless by monetizing their means of having their sites seen.... No wonder blogs are so popular now. It's the only way someone can actually be seen by more than five people without having a marketing budget. Geez...

Sorry, I am a ranter!

When I see something skewed and broken it just makes me mad and this system appears to be both.

Well, some may not agree, but PR does affect SERPs, and that does bring you traffic. - The higher you are on google pages the more traffic you will get.

But I do see your point, and I do agree with it 100%! my website is listed in over 500 directories already, and I do not see any traffic increase! - What's more interesting, and maybe it is to early, but I do not see any PR increase either...:sad: - Are directories completely useless??

DavidParker · 08-03-2007, 11:57 AM

Find out directories ( your product directories ) which come at good serp. Those directories can give some traffic to your website but not too good.

megamomm · 08-03-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by drumsoloartist

Well, some may not agree, but PR does affect SERPs, and that does bring you traffic. - The higher you are on google pages the more traffic you will get.

But I do see your point, and I do agree with it 100%! my website is listed in over 500 directories already, and I do not see any traffic increase! - What's more interesting, and maybe it is to early, but I do not see any PR increase either...:sad: - Are directories completely useless??

I don't know how useful they are but I do wonder if one day the folks at google will do with directories, the same as they did with link exchanges and claim abuse of the system on those who are linked up to too many just for the fact that it's pretty much common knowledge that they are there for raising PR rather than traffic with the exception of a couple of the bigger directories whom I think many people still submit to hoping to see a little increase in visitors (yahoo, dmoz, ect.) .

drumsoloartist · 08-03-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by megamomm

I don't know how useful they are but I do wonder if one day the folks at google will do with directories, the same as they did with link exchanges and claim abuse of the system on those who are linked up to too many just for the fact that it's pretty much common knowledge that they are there for raising PR rather than traffic with the exception of a couple of the bigger directories whom I think many people still submit to hoping to see a little increase in visitors (yahoo, dmoz, ect.) .

Thats an interesting idea, but IF it will happen , it will kill the whole idea/practice of starting a directory site, and I guess IF that will happen than Google would do the same for Blogs, Article sites, Forums, Social Networking sites, etc, etc, etc... (basically all the websites where users would be able to post a link)

megamomm · 08-03-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by drumsoloartist

Thats an interesting idea, but IF it will happen , it will kill the whole idea/practice of starting a directory site, and I guess IF that will happen than Google would do the same for Blogs, Article sites, Forums, Social Networking sites, etc, etc, etc... (basically all the websites where users would be able to post a link)

I think forums would be safe since one could argue that displaying a link can drive traffic. Articles gives people content, so I think they would miss the chopping block too. Directories do nothing other than offer PR so I think they would be hit the hardest... just a thought.

megrisoft · 08-03-2007, 03:53 PM

Hello,

I can be agree for traffic point of view that they do not help much in direct traffic, but getting links from PR2 themed category page of directory helps in Link Popularity as well as SEO. Here i will also say that quality of directory as well as age the directory is added advantages!

Ckrismoney · 08-04-2007, 06:34 AM

DMOZ is good for page rank, and a small amount of traffic.

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