Something wrong with Iwebtool's Pagerank Prediction tool?

fuser00 · 06-21-2007, 12:58 PM

Hi, im fuser and i had a PR3 with 1000 irrelevant backlinks (or most of them)...I wanted to get PR5 on Google's next update so i started a link building campaign. When i got to 2500 backlinks, my predicted pagerank, according to Iwebtool, was 5 (83%)...that was great! Then, when i got 4000 backlinks, my predicted went to PR4 (78%). Believe it or not, i then got 8000 backlinks and my predicted was still PR4. After a few days, my predicted went to "cannot determine". Not only this, the next day, my backlinks count dropped to 2000 for this url. I checked the same address without the "www." and its still 8000...

Is this supposed to work like this? Some people told me not to guide myself with iwebtool but other webmasters do.

What to you think?

Thanks, fuser

PS: I have not posted the url as i dont want this post to be considered SPAM

Steve Myers · 06-21-2007, 01:38 PM

The prediction is not 100% accurate, so I would not rely on it, just use it as a guestimate. The algorithm of the page rank is as I said before not 100% to any matter. Since you're experiencing a bounce flow, I would wait for another 12-24 hours and try again, but don't use this as lean on shoulder of your expectations to getting a page rank as Google is also balancing out because of the cache update that it's doing today.

sabian1982 · 06-21-2007, 01:39 PM

Theres be 'problems' with all tools for quite some time now...

etrader · 06-21-2007, 02:47 PM

calm down my friend, it is just a prediction,

iwebtool is not a witch

kijakarn · 06-21-2007, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabian1982

Theres be 'problems' with all tools for quite some time now...

During update of data from some DC ,there always be errors in some tools., like PR prediction which depend on BL infos.esp. when it close to PR update time..

Business · 06-22-2007, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuser00

Hi, im fuser and i had a PR3 with 1000 irrelevant backlinks (or most of them)...I wanted to get PR5 on Google's next update so i started a link building campaign. When i got to 2500 backlinks, my predicted pagerank, according to Iwebtool, was 5 (83%)...that was great! Then, when i got 4000 backlinks, my predicted went to PR4 (78%). Believe it or not, i then got 8000 backlinks and my predicted was still PR4. After a few days, my predicted went to "cannot determine". Not only this, the next day, my backlinks count dropped to 2000 for this url. I checked the same address without the "www." and its still 8000...

Is this supposed to work like this? Some people told me not to guide myself with iwebtool but other webmasters do.

What to you think?

Thanks, fuser

PS: I have not posted the url as i dont want this post to be considered SPAM

You got 8000 links? wow where did you get that? from directory? forum or something else?

Jsny · 06-29-2007, 05:25 AM

From my 'little' experience I've learned not to trust any prediction tool!

imrankhan · 07-19-2007, 09:11 PM

I dont have much experience of it but i will say, dont rely on it, its only idea.

micksss · 07-19-2007, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Business

You got 8000 links? wow where did you get that? from directory? forum or something else?

Seriously how?

deep_3657 · 07-25-2007, 10:05 AM

The prediction tool isnt working very well at present. I agree it cannot be 100% accurate, but atleast i can say its not working as smoothly as it was about a year ago.

My site, for example, has 2000 backlinks with current PR4 and it shows insufficient backlinks in the prediction tool

hasbehas · 07-25-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

During update of data from some DC ,there always be errors in some tools., like PR prediction which depend on BL infos.esp. when it close to PR update time..

I totaly agree but.. This is funny ha ?

junjun · 07-31-2007, 03:38 PM

Now even Google.com comes up with a predicted PR of 0 and zero backlinks...

sheena · 08-01-2007, 03:31 PM

I try using the iwebtool pagerank prediction tool , i found out that it isn't working well, sometimes it comes up with a result and sometimes it predicted PR0 and sufficient backlinks. So I try using this tool
http://link.ezer.com/tools/pagerank_prediction.asp

Katey · 08-01-2007, 04:00 PM

Hi there,

Just to clear some things up here to save you all a little confusion. iWEBTOOL's PageRank prediction tool is for entertainment purposes only (although it is by far the most accurate PR prediction tool on the web).

Just because you have 1,000,000 backlinks, doesn't necessarily mean you are going to have a better PR than a website with 100,000 backlinks, you need to build strong relevant backlinks possibly with already established PR.

When the tool says, 'Cannot Determine', it is basically saying you either;

Don't have enough backlinks
Google is updating its backlinks or PR

PR is not worth anything anyway, it is just some daft phenomenon that people have seemed to latch on to...probably because Google made it.

Regards,
Kieran Taylor.

junjun · 08-02-2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KieranTaylor0403

Just to clear some things up here to save you all a little confusion. iWEBTOOL's PageRank prediction tool is for entertainment purposes only (although it is by far the most accurate PR prediction tool on the web).

From the page:

Quote:

This predictor tool does what it says, it predicts your future Google PageRank.

It's called a 'tool' and the tool is not working. It would help if you would test it first. It has not been working for some days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KieranTaylor0403

Just because you have 1,000,000 backlinks, doesn't necessarily mean you are going to have a better PR than a website with 100,000 backlinks, you need to build strong relevant backlinks possibly with already established PR.

Check *any* domain twice and it will come up with 0's, even google.com, microsoft.com and yahoo.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by KieranTaylor0403

When the tool says, 'Cannot Determine',..

This was the issue of the OP, but the tool is broken now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KieranTaylor0403

PR is not worth anything anyway, it is just some daft phenomenon that people have seemed to latch on to...probably because Google made it.

I beg your pardon? PR is a mayor factor in Googles algorytm. PR does not justify itself, but is indirectly one of the key elements in Googles search engine. http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html

I'm sure this tool is one of the most popular pages on this site. Can anyone else from staff confirm that they are aware of the situation the tool is currently at?

06-21-2007, 12:58 PM	#1
fuser00 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 57	Something wrong with Iwebtool's Pagerank Prediction tool? Hi, im fuser and i had a PR3 with 1000 irrelevant backlinks (or most of them)...I wanted to get PR5 on Google's next update so i started a link building campaign. When i got to 2500 backlinks, my predicted pagerank, according to Iwebtool, was 5 (83%)...that was great! Then, when i got 4000 backlinks, my predicted went to PR4 (78%). Believe it or not, i then got 8000 backlinks and my predicted was still PR4. After a few days, my predicted went to "cannot determine". Not only this, the next day, my backlinks count dropped to 2000 for this url. I checked the same address without the "www." and its still 8000... Is this supposed to work like this? Some people told me not to guide myself with iwebtool but other webmasters do. What to you think? Thanks, fuser PS: I have not posted the url as i dont want this post to be considered SPAM

06-21-2007, 01:38 PM	#2
Steve Myers Junior Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 544	Re: Something wrong with Iwebtool's Pagerank Prediction tool? The prediction is not 100% accurate, so I would not rely on it, just use it as a guestimate. The algorithm of the page rank is as I said before not 100% to any matter. Since you're experiencing a bounce flow, I would wait for another 12-24 hours and try again, but don't use this as lean on shoulder of your expectations to getting a page rank as Google is also balancing out because of the cache update that it's doing today.

06-21-2007, 01:39 PM	#3
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deep_3657 Newcomer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 26	Re: Something wrong with Iwebtool's Pagerank Prediction tool? The prediction tool isnt working very well at present. I agree it cannot be 100% accurate, but atleast i can say its not working as smoothly as it was about a year ago. My site, for example, has 2000 backlinks with current PR4 and it shows insufficient backlinks in the prediction tool __________________ Quality Website Design & Development-India Professional Website Layouts and Templates - Ready to use website designs Great Directory \| TN Directory - Free SEO Friendly Directories

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08-01-2007, 03:31 PM	#13
sheena Junior Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 595	Re: Something wrong with Iwebtool's Pagerank Prediction tool? I try using the iwebtool pagerank prediction tool , i found out that it isn't working well, sometimes it comes up with a result and sometimes it predicted PR0 and sufficient backlinks. So I try using this tool http://link.ezer.com/tools/pagerank_prediction.asp __________________ search engine optimization professional seo

08-01-2007, 04:00 PM	#14
Katey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hull, United Kingdom. Posts: 317	Re: Something wrong with Iwebtool's Pagerank Prediction tool? Hi there, Just to clear some things up here to save you all a little confusion. iWEBTOOL's PageRank prediction tool is for entertainment purposes only (although it is by far the most accurate PR prediction tool on the web). Just because you have 1,000,000 backlinks, doesn't necessarily mean you are going to have a better PR than a website with 100,000 backlinks, you need to build strong relevant backlinks possibly with already established PR. When the tool says, 'Cannot Determine', it is basically saying you either; Don't have enough backlinks Google is updating its backlinks or PR PR is not worth anything anyway, it is just some daft phenomenon that people have seemed to latch on to...probably because Google made it. Regards, Kieran Taylor.

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