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Old 06-10-2007, 12:04 AM   #1
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Lightbulb What's your thought on iWebTool Talk?

Ok, this goes to everyone, and please be honest, be blunt as you can, but please be clean, don't need it getting dirty.

Here we go: We have a great community, almost like a family if you will. People come and go no matter what at any community, it's relevant in all manor. We see great quality posts, we see people participating in small areas to show their support.

The main question is, what do you want to see improve at iWebTool Talk, what changes do you want to take affect that will increase the post activity, and the member activity. I am not going to look at any other forum on this, but what if we could get this forum running at a pace where it's a constant flow of people, posts, and activities going in and out of each forum here.

Do we need to refer more people? Do we need to be more productive in our posting and give more quality to improve the response in the replies as a positive feedback? these questions do enhance the productivity in a forum, and they do work if a team is gathered to do this.

The entire community is entitled to one thing and that is "Leader Ship". Each person has this title, though we do not see it as that, but when you post, and talk to people, you're a what we call "expert" at what information you give.

It's important to show our new members that we have a solid wall on what we do, and how we do it while they're here. Not everyone will follow through and that is ok, as long as we get enough people to stand up and take action providing a back bone to enhance the quality of iWebTool Talk.

Ok, so some of you may say, "I think we're fine where we're at", but are we? Each forum has a role to play and each person looks at things differently when it comes to leadership and what needs to be done in handling and giving a project a bigger hand of support to get the ball moving faster, and like a rubber band ball "Encouraging it to Grow".

I hope that this gives a little light on what what we can improve on and also be of a great use to the forums and the members we have here.

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Old 06-10-2007, 07:54 AM   #2
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I think that what you have said is the answer to what you have asked....What I mean is that the way that you put that question, obviously having a great deal of passion in what you are talking about....shows that you have a great deal of passion for this forum. That's the answer to your question, what can we do to improve the forum?...If we had 10 members that felt the way you do about this forum, then we would have one of the best forums on the planet. v7n has about 10 members that are as dedicated as you are, and because of that, they have a great forum....So if we can get 8 more members to be passionate about this forum then that is what will promote this forum to a level beyond what you are discussing...
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Old 06-10-2007, 08:00 AM   #3
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Steve and Jumpen, you both know that i'm also an iwebtool addicted so count me in that 10 people, so we need only 7 more.

I think everything is changing so we need to be patient. Many things have changed since i registered here, and i guees the quality and the activity of this forum will be clarified in a couple of months. I belive that this is the best available webmaster related forum, but we need some more experts.
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Oh I know Bagi, I had no doubt about you I would really like to form a team of SEO Experts that have the information and know that this forum can go far and provide full support. I am not saying that no one here is not providing support, I know that some people enjoy just being here as I do, but what would help a lot is having a team that will be a (major) backbone for the forum.

I will be monitoring posts to check out who is providing the most support, quality, and showing that the forum is a place they enjoy being at. Thanks for the feedback guys
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:00 PM   #5
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Steve, I speak as just an ordinary web inexpert lad. Can contribute on marketing, promotion, pricing and negotiating, and very willng to do so, but these are not the issues raised. I'm one of the thousands of "takers", very grateful to you relatively few "givers" for looking after our questions that are often boring but keep getting repeated, no doubt.

But all organisations are led by a tiny body of knowledgeable enthusiasts, as is this one. You'll never get around that.

I came to the forum in the classic way, by finding your top class tools first and using them. Then, by accident, I found out how useful the forum could be for my specific problems. Now, I'm comfortable with what I'm publishing, I'm getting to the third stage of making some pals and looking at posts like this one just for interest. You yourself, Jumpen, and Bagi, have helped me, and OldWelshGuy sounds very good and solid on his stuff.

You are wanting to broaden the number of experts you have who will participate. Well, they'll put effort in if they get something out. I don't mean money, I might mean prestige, or it may just be the satisfaction helping people out who are grateful and establishing a reputation, or just belonging to a good club. The web was built on this kind of stuff and the motivation is still there, well amongst you all anyway.

Ok a few ideas: cherry pick and drop the daft ones.

1) If a post raises an issue where a large number of people look it at, could it be flagged to the individual expert on that topic amongst your senior team?
(Look, this is off the top of my head, and I know nothing of the history of the forum, not enough about the way it works, or the technical problems involved and it is probably a silly idea. Maybe you do it anyway.)

2) We are all desperate for pr4 links. Very few IWebtool posts have pr above 0 but I've seen a couple of pr3s and a pr4 backlink. Could providing this be part of a package for your experts?

3) Could some more references to source material/reading on the subject be provided. Use a database perhaps so people can follow the subject for themselves? Steve you posted a piece about articles recently, and there was a post from jdegerstrom which quoted a brilliant site about the little discussed topic of duplicated material. That one post has changed the way I do things.
I'm thinking I should raise the topic as a main stream thread not just for articles. But I'm not the originator of the idea - jdeg is...

4) If someone posts something of quality like this, could it be highlighted as a starred post somehow? Another recent example Bagi's post on the issue of Google and site traffic was very good and unusual, and thought through. He also said it was just his opinion, but that should be a mainstream lead post as well. There are some real gems of answers out there and they can get lost.

These ideas are designed to help forum readers, but also to provide prestige to the experts.

One of the truly good things about this forum is the way you gently encourage people to be nice to each other. Someone said thanks to me yesterday, and I felt so good that I've been into the site three times since.

That's brill boys. Sincerely thanks for what you do.

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ps Please give us an answer on the Keywords density post - I've got to put this issue to bed soon.

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Old 06-11-2007, 03:52 PM   #6
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No sir, if the other individuals are educated in that area to provide assistance, I don't see why not.

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2) We are all desperate for pr4 links. Very few IWebtool posts have pr above 0 but I've seen a couple of pr3s and a pr4 backlink. Could providing this be part of a package for your experts?

A lot of SEO Experts value their back links more than many things they do on the net. If a team were to be picked out it would not be a team with the best PR. The team would be questioned of their skills, knowledge and research ability on the net and how much they really know.

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Could some more references to source material/reading on the subject be provided. Use a database perhaps so people can follow the subject for themselves? Steve you posted a piece about articles recently, and there was a post from jdegerstrom which quoted a brilliant site about the little discussed topic of duplicated material. That one post has changed the way I do things.

I see what you mean, and this can be tagged by going to your User Control Panel > Edit Options > Subscribe to Threads "It is a drop down box". This will let you keep an eye on if that thread has been replied to in which will be displayed in your User Control Panel.

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If someone posts something of quality like this, could it be highlighted as a starred post somehow? Another recent example Bagi's post on the issue of Google and site traffic was very good and unusual, and thought through. He also said it was just his opinion, but that should be a mainstream lead post as well. There are some real gems of answers out there and they can get lost.

Again as followed, the Subscribed Threads option in the User Control Panel will be your best friend

I really appreciate the questions, thoughts, suggestions and concerns you have brought up to our attention, and believe me these do get looked over. Jumpen, Bagi, Myself and the staff do value the forum, and yes we do have a busy schedule as we work a lot "Starting a new Officer position myself" so things do get a bit crazy in the real world.

I know that the team we are going to be forming will meet the highest level of expectations for the members, and viewers who are reading what others have written down.

Thank you again for your post, I do appreciate it very much!!
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I think its pretty good. Might need a few improvements hat can make it become more popular and stuff
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Hi Steve, as you may have noticed, I'm pretty much addicted to this forum.

One of the best things for me is strong moderation, se we don't see lots of spam or stupid far-right politics, racist comments etc.

It is also one of the best forums for encouraging beginners and 'non-experts'.

I have noticed the quality of posts dropping off recently... there is still lots of good stuff, but the ratio of good stuff to link building stuff seems to have dropped.

I use the 'New Posts' button extensively, but get caught up too much in some of the silly stuff. How about some smarter 'new posts' buttons? e.g. New posts in Website Section, New Posts excluding Talk Lounge etc?

Also, how about a 'beginners forum', to encourage those regular questions like 'what is a backlink'? I started at that stage and stayed.

Some kind of control of people who always post short replies? Followed by a rule that prevents them carrying on posting short replies? I haven't thought it through, but something like If last 10 posts content<10 word then next 10 posts must be > 50 words? (You'd have to exclude introductions)

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PPS: Oh yes, how about a better revenue sharing ratio for regular posters?
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A unique, informative and interesting forum. I was happy that I
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I am afraid to tell you all this, but unfortunately this forum is dead, it can never be revived. I have been reading in many webmaster forums for the past couple of years, and only decided to join the ones I like a couple of months back, late last year. And iWEBTOOL is just full of thread which include games, videos, pictures, and doesn't have enough webmaster discussions. Also every time I come here there are the same user posting and making threads, there is no real activity in this forum, just a bunch of users trying to fix something that is permanently broke. Now I know I will probably get loads of negative reputation for this post, but at least I am probably the only one being realistic. Plus, iWEBTOOL's site alone is too shabby and unorganised, the owner just rolls out new services without completing the other one. If the main site is struggling (just look at the Alexa trends/PR trends/SE trends), then the forum will never be able to prosper itself. I don't know why you guys don't join DP (forums.digitalpoint.com), it is really friendly and diverse community, and you guys would settle in real well, I am not spamming, but in the rules I read iWEBTOOL allow competition. I know some people feel they are strict down there, but they are really not, if you read the rules and follow them, you will never have any other webmaster needs.
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Hi UKWF, although you have some valid points, I'm just curious... if, with dp you will never have any other webmaster needs... then why did you register here? Or even look here and consider registering? (I'm not being funny, it's a genuine question that might help understand a nich that iWebtool could possibly fill)
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I am afraid to tell you all this, but unfortunately this forum is dead, it can never be revived. I have been reading in many webmaster forums for the past couple of years, and only decided to join the ones I like a couple of months back, late last year. And iWEBTOOL is just full of thread which include games, videos, pictures, and doesn't have enough webmaster discussions. Also every time I come here there are the same user posting and making threads, there is no real activity in this forum, just a bunch of users trying to fix something that is permanently broke. Now I know I will probably get loads of negative reputation for this post, but at least I am probably the only one being realistic. Plus, iWEBTOOL's site alone is too shabby and unorganised, the owner just rolls out new services without completing the other one. If the main site is struggling (just look at the Alexa trends/PR trends/SE trends), then the forum will never be able to prosper itself. I don't know why you guys don't join DP (forums.digitalpoint.com), it is really friendly and diverse community, and you guys would settle in real well, I am not spamming, but in the rules I read iWEBTOOL allow competition. I know some people feel they are strict down there, but they are really not, if you read the rules and follow them, you will never have any other webmaster needs.

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UKWF. I gave you a positive rep. I commend you for being brave enough to tell us how you feel. You're not the only one that has noticed the downfall in the forums. As for the site? That has nothing to do with us, we are only the forum. Today, I was given the ability to finally make changes in this forum, and you can bet that I will do my damnedest to make this forum live up to it's potential.

Now I realize that your points are quite valid...But I hope that you aren't overgeneralizing every member of this forum. There are a small handful of members here that I wouldn't trade for 100 of DP's best. The only reason that this forum isn't filled with nothing but spam is because of it's members...And now, it's because of it's members that this forum will succeed.

Thanks for being frank.

PS. Why did you plug DP, when your username suggests that you should be plugging ukwebmasterforum?
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