Am I on the right track?

Jackson · 05-27-2007, 04:51 PM

My site is primarily directed toward the travel and vacationing sector so I googled the terms “vacation forum,” and “travel forum,” and I’m slowly joining the forums and asking and answering questions. I’m making sure that all the ones that I subscribe to are at least a PR5 or higher. The highest site I’ve joined so far has a PR8. Correction – one that I joined had all kinds of traffic put didn’t have a PR, but I joined anyway. And I’m making sure that all the sites are relevant to my site. This is really time consuming - Am I on the right track?

Bagi Zoltán · 05-27-2007, 05:02 PM

Jackson, i think that you do what you need to do. I guess you link back to your site via signature links. If you are an active and useful member of those communities i'm sure you will achieve your aims.

HotSauce · 05-27-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackson

My site is primarily directed toward the travel and vacationing sector so I googled the terms “vacation forum,” and “travel forum,” and I’m slowly joining the forums and asking and answering questions. I’m making sure that all the ones that I subscribe to are at least a PR5 or higher. The highest site I’ve joined so far has a PR8. Correction – one that I joined had all kinds of traffic put didn’t have a PR, but I joined anyway. And I’m making sure that all the sites are relevant to my site. This is really time consuming - Am I on the right track?

Another thing you could try is to find blogs that have the 'nofollow' turned off for comments. This way when you comment on the blogs you get a link as well. There are many blogs out there that have this disabled, just do a simple google search.

Jackson · 05-28-2007, 03:56 AM

How do I tell if they are no follow

Bagi Zoltán · 05-28-2007, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson

How do I tell if they are no follow

After displaying the source code of the page which contains your link, serch for your anchor text. If the link contains the

Quote:

rel="nofollow"

that link won't be counted as a vote for google, therefore the PR flow is stopped.

Jackson · 05-28-2007, 01:22 PM

I copied the view source -
<a href="http://www.SouthPadreIslandMusic.Com" target="_blank">www.SouthPadreIslandMusic.Com</a>

What does the "_blank" mean?

I can't find any info on it.

Jackson

Jackson · 05-28-2007, 01:33 PM

I finally found it - it opens a new page.

jfranktoo · 05-29-2007, 01:13 PM

Bagi, that is very interesting to me to hear how you find "no follow"

I develop reciprocal links in www.linkmarket.net. A lot of the other sites cheat, by dropping the link to us after three months. Presumably that gives them a valuable one way link from us after they do it. Well, until I find out.

But from what you are saying, another way for them to cheat would be to show the link to us, but put "no follow" behind the anchor text. This means that I'll see it as a link to us, but Google won't.

If this is true, then presumably I need to look at the source code of every page linking to us where I suspect cheating is taking place. Otherwise I'll get pr bleeding, won't I?

Am I right in all of this?

John

Bagi Zoltán · 05-29-2007, 01:26 PM

John, Google also follows those links but doesn't count them as a vote, so that won't increase the relevance for the given anchor text and will stop the PR flow. Cheater are regularly very smart, or they think they are. Meta nofollow robot tag, or a local rel="nofollow" are commonly used techniques, but hiding backlink giving pages with the use of robots.txt or just simply display the link with javascript are also not rare. Otherwise I don't suggest you to exchange links with irrelevant sites, or with people you don't trust. There are several possibilities to increase relevance for a particular keyphrase. For instance forum signatures, directory submission, blogging at different hosting providers etc.

jfranktoo · 05-29-2007, 02:00 PM

Bagi, I'm going to give up on this link exchange business with world-wide directories, and just use forums and articles, where I can control the inbound links and make sure they are one way.
There is a suggestion going around these postings that Google are downgrading reciprocal links, in favour of one way links.
Could that be true?
Thanks for the reply.
John

jwd25 · 06-06-2007, 04:45 PM

Bagi, can you give an e.g. of the nofollow code. Is it like a tag <nofollow>?

Bagi Zoltán · 06-06-2007, 04:57 PM

Locally the nofollow can be spacified as

HTML Code:

<a href="http://domain.com" rel="nofollow">anchor text</a>

and it can be specified with the following meta tag as well.

HTML Code:

<meta name="robots" content="nofollow"/>

OldWelshGuy · 06-06-2007, 07:40 PM

Google ware devaluing reciprocal links but not in all cases. as in most things google there is no black and white. If a site is 100% bang on topic and they link to you and you link back, and the links are on content pages then they count.

05-27-2007, 04:51 PM	#1
Jackson Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Laguna Vista Texas Posts: 30	Am I on the right track? My site is primarily directed toward the travel and vacationing sector so I googled the terms “vacation forum,” and “travel forum,” and I’m slowly joining the forums and asking and answering questions. I’m making sure that all the ones that I subscribe to are at least a PR5 or higher. The highest site I’ve joined so far has a PR8. Correction – one that I joined had all kinds of traffic put didn’t have a PR, but I joined anyway. And I’m making sure that all the sites are relevant to my site. This is really time consuming - Am I on the right track? __________________ Welcome to South Padre Island Music & Entertainment http://southpadreislandmusic.com

05-27-2007, 05:02 PM	#2
Bagi Zoltán iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,855	Re: Am I on the right track? Jackson, i think that you do what you need to do. I guess you link back to your site via signature links. If you are an active and useful member of those communities i'm sure you will achieve your aims. __________________ █ Time may come when you will need an excellent eCommerce shopping cart software █ free seo related web directory mérlegek Free shopping cart

05-28-2007, 03:56 AM	#4
Jackson Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Laguna Vista Texas Posts: 30	Re: Am I on the right track? How do I tell if they are no follow __________________ Welcome to South Padre Island Music & Entertainment http://southpadreislandmusic.com

05-28-2007, 01:22 PM	#6
Jackson Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Laguna Vista Texas Posts: 30	Re: Am I on the right track? I copied the view source - <a href="http://www.SouthPadreIslandMusic.Com" target="_blank">www.SouthPadreIslandMusic.Com</a> What does the "_blank" mean? I can't find any info on it. Jackson __________________ Welcome to South Padre Island Music & Entertainment http://southpadreislandmusic.com

05-28-2007, 01:33 PM	#7
Jackson Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Laguna Vista Texas Posts: 30	Re: Am I on the right track? I finally found it - it opens a new page. __________________ Welcome to South Padre Island Music & Entertainment http://southpadreislandmusic.com

05-29-2007, 01:13 PM	#8
jfranktoo Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: chichester england Posts: 189	Re: Am I on the right track? Bagi, that is very interesting to me to hear how you find "no follow" I develop reciprocal links in www.linkmarket.net. A lot of the other sites cheat, by dropping the link to us after three months. Presumably that gives them a valuable one way link from us after they do it. Well, until I find out. But from what you are saying, another way for them to cheat would be to show the link to us, but put "no follow" behind the anchor text. This means that I'll see it as a link to us, but Google won't. If this is true, then presumably I need to look at the source code of every page linking to us where I suspect cheating is taking place. Otherwise I'll get pr bleeding, won't I? Am I right in all of this? John __________________ Scotland last minute short breaks and special deals, self catering cottages Self catering cottage in Appin by Glencoe Scotland Last edited 05-29-2007 at 01:15 PM. Reason: grammar

05-29-2007, 01:26 PM	#9
Bagi Zoltán iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,855	Re: Am I on the right track? John, Google also follows those links but doesn't count them as a vote, so that won't increase the relevance for the given anchor text and will stop the PR flow. Cheater are regularly very smart, or they think they are. Meta nofollow robot tag, or a local rel="nofollow" are commonly used techniques, but hiding backlink giving pages with the use of robots.txt or just simply display the link with javascript are also not rare. Otherwise I don't suggest you to exchange links with irrelevant sites, or with people you don't trust. There are several possibilities to increase relevance for a particular keyphrase. For instance forum signatures, directory submission, blogging at different hosting providers etc. __________________ █ Time may come when you will need an excellent eCommerce shopping cart software █ free seo related web directory mérlegek Free shopping cart

05-29-2007, 02:00 PM	#10
jfranktoo Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: chichester england Posts: 189	Re: Am I on the right track? Bagi, I'm going to give up on this link exchange business with world-wide directories, and just use forums and articles, where I can control the inbound links and make sure they are one way. There is a suggestion going around these postings that Google are downgrading reciprocal links, in favour of one way links. Could that be true? Thanks for the reply. John __________________ Scotland last minute short breaks and special deals, self catering cottages Self catering cottage in Appin by Glencoe Scotland

06-06-2007, 04:45 PM	#11
jwd25 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 340	Re: Am I on the right track? Bagi, can you give an e.g. of the nofollow code. Is it like a tag <nofollow>? __________________ Joseph SGS Office Space Rental Solution Provider

06-06-2007, 04:57 PM	#12
Bagi Zoltán iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,855	Re: Am I on the right track? Locally the nofollow can be spacified as HTML Code: <a href="http://domain.com" rel="nofollow">anchor text</a> and it can be specified with the following meta tag as well. HTML Code: <meta name="robots" content="nofollow"/> __________________ █ Time may come when you will need an excellent eCommerce shopping cart software █ free seo related web directory mérlegek Free shopping cart

06-06-2007, 07:40 PM	#13
OldWelshGuy iWEBTOOL SEO Advisor Contributor Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 675	Re: Am I on the right track? Google ware devaluing reciprocal links but not in all cases. as in most things google there is no black and white. If a site is 100% bang on topic and they link to you and you link back, and the links are on content pages then they count. __________________ Umbrella Consultancy Internet Marketing Company - Rugby Forum - Google Expert Blog

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