Very New to Wordpress

Steve Myers · 06-21-2007, 01:18 AM

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How often should it take to get rid of the “dead pages”? Because they have been there ever since I started using wordpress (About 2 months ago, it must be really slow).

Check this video out, it will explain the results of why Google has the most dead and old pages on their indexing: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/200...-dead-and.html

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I understand the first two but No Content? How can a page not have any content on it? Unless you meant too little content.

Just an example of why sites get indexed with a supplemental result. This is not referring to you in that area, but the other options listed there just may.

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Is this code safe to use (By safe, I mean will it not rewrite or conflict with any of my current modifications, because I was encountering some problems in the past, with it not opening, reverting to default, etc.)?

Just to be sure, here is its current .htaccess code right now:

ANY and I mean any pages that are in site.com format and not www.site.com format will be changed to www.site.com and keep the address location as it is. It's just redirecting to the www so that you do not get a duplicate penalty on the engines.

jamestl2 · 06-21-2007, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Myers

Check this video out, it will explain the results of why Google has the most dead and old pages on their indexing: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/200...-dead-and.html

Tried to watch the video, but the link on that site seems to be down.

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Originally Posted by Steve Myers

ANY and I mean any pages that are in site.com format and not www.site.com format will be changed to www.site.com and keep the address location as it is. It's just redirecting to the www so that you do not get a duplicate penalty on the engines.

I don’t have any pages in the site.com format though, the diffrence in my URLs are their page slugs, for example, it used to be:
"http://www.toptenlisted.com/%20top%20ten%20ways"
now it is just:
"http://www.toptenlisted.com/top-ten-ways"

So, I suppose I didn’t need that htaccess code if adding the “www” is what it was suppose to “cure”?

Steve Myers · 06-21-2007, 01:53 AM

I'll check on the page again for you to see if I can get an accurate link update. For the redirecting, If someone has your link on their site (for example I place your link on my site) and you don't have the redirect in your htaccess, then your site will be shown with two different urls on the engines.

This to me is what most SEO webmasters do to keep their site optimized as one url on the engines and keep it clean. I have seen so many different opinions about this being a penalty and it not, but it is up to you. I would not recommend you doing without a redirect, again as I said before about someone placing a link on their site without the www will show up on the engines.

Let's see what the others say and their view on this.

Some tips on How to keep your "Site" from getting tanked on Google: http://webmastershelp.iblogget.com/2.../11/checklist/

NavyCS · 06-21-2007, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jamestl2

So, I suppose I didn’t need that htaccess code if adding the “www” is what it was suppose to “cure”?

Follow this link and you will see you don't have the www on this duplicate site (read on, it doesn't mean penalty) http://toptenlisted.com/ You won't suffer a dup content issue as much as you split the pages power up (incoming links may vary between the www and non-www) The search engines try and pick the best option. Read these to blog entries for the details;
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-ad...onicalization/
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/canonicalization-update/

A large number of your pages are in supplimental due to not enough link juice to your site. It is not due to duplicate content, I checked a few of your sup pages with copyscape. Read this Blog post from Matt Cutts of Google - http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/

As far as a lack of content moving a page into Supps I haven't heard that before. You can't get much less content than what is on this page and it is not supplemental. www.anglergossip.com

Bottom line is your site is the perfect example as to why forum links don't carry much weight. 99% of your links are from forum posts. Maybe not a real bad place for you to start because you potencally have some good link bait with the top 10 lists - syndicate your site! You should be using the RSS function in wordpress and submit that RSS feed to every site that will take it - there are a lot out there.

I hope everyone read the blog entries and paid close attention to the paid links and recip link comments. The paid links comment - about them being devalued - was cleared up, paid links do not equal bad! If a link is human edited and from a relevant page you can pay millions and it won't devalue the link, if it is from a "anyone can submit" or a non-relevant page, don't waste your time nor money. Links must look natural, recip linking is not normal (site A finds great content on site b and links to the resource, how often does site b make a link back saying essentually, "hey look this guy linked to me!" Don't happen often hense the devaluation of recips.

Welp, time for bed.

jamestl2 · 06-21-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Myers

I'll check on the page again for you to see if I can get an accurate link update. For the redirecting, If someone has your link on their site (for example I place your link on my site) and you don't have the redirect in your htaccess, then your site will be shown with two different urls on the engines.

So should I still go ahead and put that code into my htaccess file? Even with the code I already showed you earlier.

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Originally Posted by NavyCS

Follow this link and you will see you don't have the www on this duplicate site (read on, it doesn't mean penalty) http://toptenlisted.com/ You won't suffer a dup content issue as much as you split the pages power up (incoming links may vary between the www and non-www) The search engines try and pick the best option.

I tried to set up a permanent redirect http://toptenlisted.com to http://www.toptenlisted.com, but after I set it up the entire site basically “shut down” until I removed the redirect.

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Originally Posted by NavyCS

Bottom line is your site is the perfect example as to why forum links don't carry much weight. 99% of your links are from forum posts. Maybe not a real bad place for you to start because you potencally have some good link bait with the top 10 lists - syndicate your site! You should be using the RSS function in wordpress and submit that RSS feed to every site that will take it - there are a lot out there.

Do you have any links talking about this? I know next to nothing about RSS (Besides the fact that it stands for Real Simple Syndication lol)

NavyCS · 06-21-2007, 06:42 PM

I assume this is the code you entered? Put this code above the wordpress code.

Code:

Options +FollowSymLinks 
RewriteEngine on 
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^toptenlisted\.com 
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.toptenlisted.com/$1 [R=permanent,L]

If you still have the problem remove the line in your wordpress code "rewriteEngine on" - that should do it.

RSS will generate an xml file each time you update content on a page that rss is associated with. The best list I can come up with on places to submit your rss feed is http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ubmit+rss+feed

Steve Myers · 06-21-2007, 06:42 PM

I would recommend you placing that code in and just changing the variables with yours. I focus on NavyCS work and input, so if he says differently then follow up with that.

Honestly I would use this code to just be safe, but that is your option.

Code:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.se-illustrated\.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.se-illustrated.com/$1 [L,R=301]

I did try the code that NavyCS provided, but it directed my site to the right URL, but it didn't display the page, gave an error of page not redirected correctly. Test these two out and see which one you find to be the most comfortable.

jamestl2 · 06-21-2007, 07:17 PM

Just to be clear that I am putting the code in the right place, here is what my .htaccess file is currently:

Code:

# BEGIN WordPress
<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /index.php [L]
</IfModule>

# END WordPress

And I should enter this Right above "# BEGIN WordPress":

Code:

Options +FollowSymLinks 
RewriteEngine on 
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^toptenlisted\.com 
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.toptenlisted.com/$1 [R=permanent,L]

or this instead:

Code:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.se-illustrated\.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.se-illustrated.com/$1 [L,R=301]

NavyCS · 06-21-2007, 07:19 PM

Try this;

Code:

Options +FollowSymLinks 
RewriteEngine on 
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^toptenlisted\.com 
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.toptenlisted.com/$1 [R=permanent,L]
# BEGIN WordPress
<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
# RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /index.php [L]
</IfModule>

# END WordPress

NavyCS · 06-21-2007, 07:22 PM

Good job, works like a champ.

Steve Myers · 06-21-2007, 07:50 PM

That it does work

Excellent work!!!

jamestl2 · 06-21-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyCS

Good job, works like a champ.

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Originally Posted by Steve Myers

That it does work

Excellent work!!!

Wasn't sure if you were talking about something I did or the code itself, because I hadn't even entered it yet.

Anyway, I just wanted to make sure of what that code did, if it redirects all URL's with non-www to www, or if there was anything else.

Steve Myers · 06-21-2007, 08:16 PM

It redirects all non-www to www. But your site is apparently redirecting the non-www to www so I don't see a reason to add it unless you feel you need to.

jamestl2 · 06-21-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Myers

It redirects all non-www to www. But your site is apparently redirecting the non-www to www so I don't see a reason to add it unless you feel you need to.

Are you saying that htaccess code is unnecessary for my site, because it was already redirecting non-www to www pages?

NavyCS · 06-21-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jamestl2

Are you saying that htaccess code is unnecessary for my site, because it was already redirecting non-www to www pages?

No, it is because you added the code the redirect works. ready for the next step?

06-21-2007, 01:53 AM	#18
Steve Myers Junior Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 544	Re: Very New to Wordpress I'll check on the page again for you to see if I can get an accurate link update. For the redirecting, If someone has your link on their site (for example I place your link on my site) and you don't have the redirect in your htaccess, then your site will be shown with two different urls on the engines. This to me is what most SEO webmasters do to keep their site optimized as one url on the engines and keep it clean. I have seen so many different opinions about this being a penalty and it not, but it is up to you. I would not recommend you doing without a redirect, again as I said before about someone placing a link on their site without the www will show up on the engines. Let's see what the others say and their view on this. Some tips on How to keep your "Site" from getting tanked on Google: http://webmastershelp.iblogget.com/2.../11/checklist/

06-21-2007, 06:42 PM	#21
NavyCS iWEBTOOL SEO Advisor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 242	Re: Very New to Wordpress I assume this is the code you entered? Put this code above the wordpress code. Code: Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^toptenlisted\.com RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.toptenlisted.com/$1 [R=permanent,L] If you still have the problem remove the line in your wordpress code "rewriteEngine on" - that should do it. RSS will generate an xml file each time you update content on a page that rss is associated with. The best list I can come up with on places to submit your rss feed is http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ubmit+rss+feed __________________ Memphis Website Design Military Benefits

06-21-2007, 06:42 PM	#22
Steve Myers Junior Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 544	Re: Very New to Wordpress I would recommend you placing that code in and just changing the variables with yours. I focus on NavyCS work and input, so if he says differently then follow up with that. Honestly I would use this code to just be safe, but that is your option. Code: RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.se-illustrated\.com [NC] RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.se-illustrated.com/$1 [L,R=301] I did try the code that NavyCS provided, but it directed my site to the right URL, but it didn't display the page, gave an error of page not redirected correctly. Test these two out and see which one you find to be the most comfortable.

06-21-2007, 07:17 PM	#23
jamestl2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ummmmmm.........OK Posts: 267	Re: Very New to Wordpress Just to be clear that I am putting the code in the right place, here is what my .htaccess file is currently: Code: # BEGIN WordPress <IfModule mod_rewrite.c> RewriteEngine On RewriteBase / RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule . /index.php [L] </IfModule> # END WordPress And I should enter this Right above "# BEGIN WordPress": Code: Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^toptenlisted\.com RewriteRule ^(.)$ http://www.toptenlisted.com/$1 [R=permanent,L] or this instead: Code: RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.se-illustrated\.com [NC] RewriteRule ^(.)$ http://www.se-illustrated.com/$1 [L,R=301] __________________ Toptenlisted.com - The Premier Source for Top Ten Lists Conspiracy-Forums.com - Powered by vBulletin (& vbSEO) Lightningshock.com - My Blog

06-21-2007, 07:22 PM	#25
NavyCS iWEBTOOL SEO Advisor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 242	Re: Very New to Wordpress Good job, works like a champ. __________________ Memphis Website Design Military Benefits

06-21-2007, 07:50 PM	#26
Steve Myers Junior Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 544	Re: Very New to Wordpress That it does work Excellent work!!!

06-21-2007, 08:16 PM	#28
Steve Myers Junior Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 544	Re: Very New to Wordpress It redirects all non-www to www. But your site is apparently redirecting the non-www to www so I don't see a reason to add it unless you feel you need to.

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