kryton

hi all,

Ya know I was wondering if its even worth it to SEO your site?
I mean 2-3 hours per week does it really do any good? does it help?
does it hurt? after all that just to see your site muve up a notch or
two


what about this PR Rating and Alexa?

What I suggest to get in good with google is to
have a content relevent site to what your selling or
what your topic is


welp, Cya
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jumpenjuhosaphat

If you are spending 2 or 3 hours per week, in a few months you will get some pretty decent results. If you don't, you will never get any results. You will never make your way to the top of your competitive keyword SERPs.

So I guess the real question is: Is it worth 2 or 3 hours a week to increase the traffic to my site by 2, 3, 4, even 100 times, and thereby increase sales, conversions, click throughts, etc? Well, is it it worth it to you? If you don't care about traffic, then the answer could very well be NO....But, if for any reason you do care about increasing the traffic to your site, then the answer will be obviously YES.

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hasan_889

Before doing anything you have to decide what you really want? Do you want a web, just a web, you don't care about traffic, you don't care about SEO, you don't about anything OR you want a nice website, good number of natural visit, not only direct visitors, but only through search results, and you have a good ROI.

If you want first option, then don't worry. Keep it as it is ... or if otherwise then follow the steps (as I'm following)=>

1. Develop a website, put all relevent information, take care of keywords, meta descriptions, heading, alt description etc.

2. Identify your unique keywords, that suits you most.

3. Exchange link between relavent web sites.

4. Become member in different website forums and invite people to review your website, even use weblink in your signature as well. This will definitely help getting more traffic.

5. If possible put relavent articles in your website, good source of keywords.

6. Rewrite url ... use "www.yahoo.com/hasan_889/" type url, rather than "www.yahoo.com/user=hasan_889". It works pretty well.

7. Use www.google.com/webmasters/sitemap/ and siteexplorer.yahoo.com for your website sitemap indexing.


At the end, whatever advice, suggestion people give you, don't just hear, try to implement. Finally, SEO does matters!!!



If you find helpful, award me reputation ... hahahaha.

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kryton

Well I would like traffic and lots of it. like we all would like to see.

but if your web site has good content. and attracts visitors. should you even bother with SEO?

Could SEO be the biggest Internet scam of all? Think about it.
A few years ago when I searched for "web Hosting" I was returned 1001889072 sites that provide web hosting. Now I get 674265431 sites that provide links to web hosting review sites. thus meaning I am not getting what I am looking for. These site are good to consumers that are not sure and need some kinda guide to help them along, but lack the content I am searching for. a well internet oriented individual.

SEO Sites offer SEO from $9.95 to like $500 or more for a complete site. and whats the results?

I dont want my website competing with off content sites so how is this corrected? My web site sells web hosting. so why are the review sites most of which I'm not in yet being shown 1st?.

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drumsoloartist

I may be off topic here, but the cheapest deal I was presented was $200 a month, the next cheapest deal was actually $2850 one time pay for 6 month of SEO, (5 pages only) And I dont even want to tell you the most expensive one... But 9.95 ?? Where do those prices come from?

jumpenjuhosaphat

Well, if you are having troubles with irrelevant search results, you could try contacting the Search Engines, but I don't think that they particularly care that much, and I don't think you would get a responce. But you know what they say, if you can't beat them, join them. In other words, if your competition is doing something that is causeing you to lose traffic, then you should really consider doing something similar to retaliate and regain your traffic. Otherwise, you will have to find other places to get traffic, which would mean that you would need to gain backlinks to your site either by buying them, or by finding places like hosting review sites that would be willing to give your hosting a review. Or by submitting to directories. Either way, you are performing the exact same tasks to get the exact same results. So even if the search engines didn't exist, you would go through the same steps to gain traffic to your site. Or you could take out print ads and TV and Radio ads.

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wombleme

Making content relevant sites and leaving links like "win a free xbox" are both a kind of seo. But yes, a bit of seo is essential if you want to make money on the internet, but overdoing it can damage results and would be better spent actually creating something.

hemanthjava

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SEO Does help.

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jethrotul

Google doesn't think it's worth, but that's Google. I haven't heard of ther site which hasn't been seoed and managed to get into the top results.

princess23

we spend 8 hours a day, 6 times a week for SEO. and i can say that we really get great results

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OldWelshGuy

That depends on what the return on investement (ROI) is. If carrying out the SEO costs 'xx' but the return is 'xxx' then of course it is worth it. If the return on xx is x however, it is NOT worth it.

'Just to move up a notch or two' I have a client in a competitive industry. If they are #1 then they get a LOT of business. if they drop to #2 then the business almost dries up. So int heir case YES it IS important to go up a notch.

You Need Pr (PageRank) to get your site spidered and to keep the pages out of the Supplemental Index. Alexa rank is not worth a tosh! forget about it. The think about PR though is that you can't get it without links, and links are VERY good for ranking (provided you use them properly ) on ontopic pages with the correct anchor text .

Absolutely, and add to that inbound links from some authority sites and on topic other sites, together with some nice deep links and you are well on your way.

Is it worth it though?

Well I had a client that I worked for. When I took him on he was selling £4000 of stock a month. After 6 months he was selling £10,000 a WEEK. £40,000 a month, that is TEN TIMES what we WAS selling before paying me to SEO his site. It was an ecommerce site that sold sex toys. I charged him £6000 in total to do the work, which at the end of the period of work was less than he was making in a week as a result of my work. So as I said in the beginning, it is ALL ABOUT ROI

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demogro

keyword densty
meta keywords
unique content
unique content

and building backlinks (maybe cannot get high pr For young sites But it improve your traffic definitely)

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OldWelshGuy

Please don't think I am being picky, but I have to disagree with some of your posts.

Keyword density is a tiny bit of the algo
Meta keywords is not even indexed by google
the last two I agree with (unique content twice )

Finally with regard PR you are SO wrong on this. Like many I fear that you have fallen into the trap that PR on the silly green bar on the toolbar is actually PR it IS NOT! There are two types of PR Toolbar PR which is snapshoted and exported periodically and is used for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the ranking algorithm. and Google ACTUAL LIVE PageRank that is ONLY available to Google employees at the plex.

Actual PR is updated constantly AND applied to a site instantly (or as soon as it poropagates across the datacentres). It is ACTUAL PR that is used for the benefit of driving a spider through the site, keeping pages out of the supplemental index etc. (and possibly a very small amount of ranking power). Links are counted as soon as they are indexed, and the PR transferred immediately. Every now and again it is exported to the toolbar and a month or two or even sometimes THREE MONTHS later we get to see that value.

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