Newbbie sites take my sites away!

Spikuli · 04-11-2007, 07:31 AM

Newbbie sites take my sites away! My sites has a PR3, but the newbbie sites has just PR0,1,2.. but they stay at better position in google..maybe i should wait the google update?(prediction tool predict to my sites a PR5 with 3120 backlinks)..Please help me! What can I do?

midlandi · 04-11-2007, 07:33 AM

Not sure what it is your trying to say or ask for.
What do you mean by "newbie site taking your site away"?

Spikuli · 04-11-2007, 07:40 AM

new sites that was indexed by google a week ago pick a good positions (page 1 and 2 with PR0-2) and my sites now stay at page 4-6 with PR3, but a week ago my sites stayed at these page 1 and 2!

pcyahoi · 04-11-2007, 09:27 AM

All depend on what keywords you are searching for.

Spikuli · 04-11-2007, 09:32 AM

ok, my base keywords are cheap cigarettes and discount cigarettes! now by these keys i'm at 4-6 pages, but not at page 2!

Bagi Zoltán · 04-11-2007, 09:38 AM

The forthcoming PR update won't affect your position, because google algo uses the live PR values. All you have to do is to go for some backlinks using the desired keyphrases in the anchor text.

Spikuli · 04-11-2007, 09:57 AM

that's what i'm doing now

, maybe its google dance? what you say?

Bagi Zoltán · 04-11-2007, 10:01 AM

Well I don't have enough information to declare that it's google dance, but your ranking wasn't strong enough

gmailjon · 04-11-2007, 11:32 AM

Add more content, and try to keep keyword density less than 5% - it is said that around 300 words in ample, but i like to use around 500, even though it can seem alot, if your page is laid out correctly, it does work.

jumpenjuhosaphat · 04-11-2007, 11:36 AM

The PageRank of your site has little to do with your position in the search engines. Like was said before, your anchor text has a big effect on you position. But also, your content will have a big effect as well. Look at what the other sites are doing to gain their position, try to mimic what they are doing. It also might be helpful to update your content periodically, and look for keyword trends in your industry, and try to stay on top of those trends by offering content that follows those trends.

04-11-2007, 07:31 AM	#1
Spikuli Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 9	Newbbie sites take my sites away! Newbbie sites take my sites away! My sites has a PR3, but the newbbie sites has just PR0,1,2.. but they stay at better position in google..maybe i should wait the google update?(prediction tool predict to my sites a PR5 with 3120 backlinks)..Please help me! What can I do? __________________ Cigarettes Store- http://www.top-cigarettes.com

04-11-2007, 07:33 AM	#2
midlandi iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,164	Re: Newbbie sites take my sites away! Not sure what it is your trying to say or ask for. What do you mean by "newbie site taking your site away"? __________________ Webmaster Resources & Forums SubmitterBot - Semi-automatic directory submission tool

04-11-2007, 07:40 AM	#3
Spikuli Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 9	Re: Newbbie sites take my sites away! new sites that was indexed by google a week ago pick a good positions (page 1 and 2 with PR0-2) and my sites now stay at page 4-6 with PR3, but a week ago my sites stayed at these page 1 and 2! __________________ Cigarettes Store- http://www.top-cigarettes.com

04-11-2007, 09:27 AM	#4
pcyahoi Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 29	Re: Newbbie sites take my sites away! All depend on what keywords you are searching for.

04-11-2007, 09:32 AM	#5
Spikuli Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 9	Re: Newbbie sites take my sites away! ok, my base keywords are cheap cigarettes and discount cigarettes! now by these keys i'm at 4-6 pages, but not at page 2! __________________ Cigarettes Store- http://www.top-cigarettes.com

04-11-2007, 09:38 AM	#6
Bagi Zoltán iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,845	Re: Newbbie sites take my sites away! The forthcoming PR update won't affect your position, because google algo uses the live PR values. All you have to do is to go for some backlinks using the desired keyphrases in the anchor text. __________________ █ Time may come when you will need an excellent eCommerce shopping cart software █ free seo related web directory online marketing Free shopping cart

04-11-2007, 09:57 AM	#7
Spikuli Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 9	Re: Newbbie sites take my sites away! that's what i'm doing now , maybe its google dance? what you say? __________________ Cigarettes Store- http://www.top-cigarettes.com

04-11-2007, 10:01 AM	#8
Bagi Zoltán iWEBTOOL Moderator Contributor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,845	Re: Newbbie sites take my sites away! Well I don't have enough information to declare that it's google dance, but your ranking wasn't strong enough __________________ █ Time may come when you will need an excellent eCommerce shopping cart software █ free seo related web directory online marketing Free shopping cart

04-11-2007, 11:32 AM	#9
gmailjon Newcomer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden (but I'm English) Posts: 6	Re: Newbbie sites take my sites away! Add more content, and try to keep keyword density less than 5% - it is said that around 300 words in ample, but i like to use around 500, even though it can seem alot, if your page is laid out correctly, it does work.

04-11-2007, 11:36 AM	#10
jumpenjuhosaphat Forum Admin Contributor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 4,459	Re: Newbbie sites take my sites away! The PageRank of your site has little to do with your position in the search engines. Like was said before, your anchor text has a big effect on you position. But also, your content will have a big effect as well. Look at what the other sites are doing to gain their position, try to mimic what they are doing. It also might be helpful to update your content periodically, and look for keyword trends in your industry, and try to stay on top of those trends by offering content that follows those trends. __________________ Storage Sheds Lost Forum

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